de Montgomery, Count Roger II

Male UNKNOWN - 1094


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  de Montgomery, Count Roger II was born in UNKNOWN; died on 27 Jul 1094 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England; was buried on 27 Jul 1094 in Abbey of St. Peter, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Military: Roger was one of William the Conqueror's principal advisors.
    • Appointments / Titles: Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England; First Earl of Shrewsbury
    • Nickname: The Great
    • FSID: LD9R-5G3
    • Occupation: Councilor to William the Conqueror

    Notes:

    Roger de Montgomery (died 1094), also known as Roger the Great de Montgomery, was the first Earl of Shrewsbury, and Earl of Arundel, Sussex. His father was Roger de Montgomery, seigneur of Montgomery, and was a relative, probably a grandnephew, of the Duchess Gunnor, wife of Duke Richard I of Normandy. The elder Roger had large holdings in central Normandy, chiefly in the valley of the Dives, which the younger Roger inherited....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_de_Montgomery

    Life[edit]
    Roger was one of William the Conqueror's principal counsellors, playing a major role in the Council of Lillebonne. He may not have fought in the initial invasion of England in 1066, instead staying behind to help govern Normandy. According to Wace's Roman de Rou, however, he commanded the Norman right flank at Hastings, returning to Normandy with King William in 1067.[1] Afterwards he was entrusted with land in two places critical for the defence of England, receiving the Rape of Arundel at the end of 1067 (or in early 1068), and in November 1071 he was created Earl of Shrewsbury; a few historians believe that while he received the Shropshire territories in 1071 he was not created Earl until a few years later. In 1083, he founded Shrewsbury Abbey.[2]
    Roger was thus one of the half dozen greatest magnates in England during William the Conqueror's reign. William gave Earl Roger nearly all of what is now the county of West Sussex, which at the time of the Domesday Survey was the Rape of Arundel.[3] The Rape of Arundel was eventually split into two rapes, one continuing with the name Rape of Arundel and the other became the Rape of Chichester.[3] Besides the 83 manors in Sussex, his possessions also included seven-eighths of Shropshire which was associated with the earldom of Shrewsbury, he had estates in Surrey (4 manors), Hampshire (9 manors), Wiltshire (3 manors), Middlesex (8 manors), Gloucestershire (1 manor), Worcestershire (2 manors), Cambridgeshire (8 manors), Warwickshire (11 manors), and Staffordshire (30 manors).[4] The income from Roger's estates would amount to about £2,000 per year, in 1086 the landed wealth for England was around £72,000, so it would have represented almost 3% of the nation's GDP.[5][6]
    After William I's death in 1087, Roger joined with other rebels to overthrow the newly crowned king, William II, in the Rebellion of 1088. However, William was able to convince Roger to abandon the rebellion and side with him. This worked out favourably for Roger, as the rebels were beaten and lost their land holdings in England.
    Family[edit]
    Roger married Mabel de Bellême, who was heiress to a large territory straddling the border between Normandy and Maine. The medieval chronicler Orderic Vitalis paints a picture of Mabel of Bellême being a scheming and cruel woman.[7] She was murdered by Hugh Bunel and his brothers who, possibly in December 1077, rode into her castle of Bures-sur-Diveand cut off her head as she lay in bed.[7][8] Their motive for the murder was that Mabel had deprived them of their paternal inheritance.[9] Roger and Mabel had 10 children:
    ·       Robert de Bellême, Count of Alençon in 1082, he succeeded his younger brother Hugh as 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury. He married Agnes, Countess of Ponthieu and died in 1131.[10]
    ·       Hugh of Montgomery, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury, died without issue 1098.[11]
    ·       Roger the Poitevin, Vicomte d'Hiemois, married Adelmode de la Marche.[12]
    ·       Philip of Montgomery.[13]
    ·       Arnulf of Montgomery,[13] married Lafracota daughter of Muirchertach Ua Briain.[14]
    ·       Sibyl of Montgomery, she married Robert Fitzhamon, Lord of Creully.[15]
    ·       Emma, abbess of Almenêches.[16]
    ·       Matilda (Maud) of Montgomery, she married Robert, Count of Mortain and died c. 1085.[17]
    ·       Mabel of Montgomery, she married Hugh de Châteauneuf.[13]
    ·       Roger of Montgomery, died young.
    Roger then married Adelaide du Puiset, by whom he had one son, Everard, who entered the Church.
    After his death, Roger's estates were divided.[18] The eldest surviving son, Robert of Bellême, received the bulk of the Norman estates (as well as his mother's estates); the next son, Hugh, received the bulk of the English estates and the Earldom of Shrewsbury.[18] After Hugh's death, the elder son Robert inherited the earldom.[18]

    Family/Spouse: de Bellême, Mabel Talvas. Mabel (daughter of de Bellême, Seigneur of Bellême and Alençon WIlliam Talvas II and de Beaumont, Hildeburge) was born in 1026 in Bellême, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France; died on 2 Dec 1079 in Bures, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France; was buried on 5 Dec 1079 in Troarn, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. de Montgomery, Countess Maud  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1039 in St Germain de Montgomery, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France; died on 12 Sep 1082 in Abbey of St Grestain, Grestain, Eure, Haute-Normandie, France; was buried on 12 Sep 1082 in Abbey of St Grestain, Grestain, Eure, Haute-Normandie, France.
    2. 3. de Montgomery, Lord Roger III  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1058 in St Germain de Montgomery, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France; died in 1123 in Charroux, Allier, Auvergne, France; was buried in 1123 in Grestain, Eure, Haute-Normandie, France.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  de Montgomery, Countess Maud Descendancy chart to this point (1.Roger1) was born in 1039 in St Germain de Montgomery, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France; died on 12 Sep 1082 in Abbey of St Grestain, Grestain, Eure, Haute-Normandie, France; was buried on 12 Sep 1082 in Abbey of St Grestain, Grestain, Eure, Haute-Normandie, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: L82R-5HJ
    • Appointments / Titles: 1060; Countess of Montaigne

    Notes:

    “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):

    “ROBERT, Count of Mortain (in Cotentin), Domesday lord of Pitstone and West Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, Blisland, Boyton, Lancarffe, Poundstock, Treroosel, and Truthwall, Cornwall, Bere Ferrers, Bolberry, Bratton Fleming, Buckland Brewer, Densham, Dunsdon, Fardel, and Weare Giffard, Devon, Ashill, Barton St. David, Bishopston, Brompton Regis, Bruton, Crewkerne, Curry Rivel, Kingstone, Shepton Montague, Stoke sub Hamdon, Swell, and Tintinhill, Somerset, etc.,

    Born about 1040. He was an uterine half-brother of William the Conqueror, King of England.
    He was created a count about 1060.

    He married (1st) before 1066 MAUD DE MONTGOMERY, daughter of Roger de Montgomery, Earl of Shrewsbury, by his 1st wife, Mabel, daughter and heiress of William, seigneur of Alencon and Bellême.

    They had one son, William [Count of Mortain], and four daughters:
    Agnes,
    Denise (wife of Guy III, seigneur of Laval),
    Emma (wife of William IV, Count of Toulouse), and Sibylle [Abbess of Saintes].

    About 1082 he and his wife, Maud, founded a collegiate church at St. Evroult at Mortain. His wife, Maud, died 21 Sept. 1082, and was buried in Grestain Abbey.

    He married (2nd) ALMODIS ___. They had one son, Robert, and one daughter, Almodis (wife of Raimon Berenguer III of Barcelona).

    In the period, 1082-84, he granted land in Dorset to Marmoutier Abbey at Tours. He joined the rebellion against King William Rufus in 1088, which was soon put down. He was a benefactor of many religious houses, including the abbeys of Grestain, Marmoutier, Caen, Préaux, Fécamp, Mont-St-Michel, St.- Nicholas, Angers and St. Albans.

    ROBERT, Count of Mortain, died 8 Dec. 1090.

    L'Art de Vérifier les Dates 2 (1784): 790 (sub Montgomeri). Rud Coelicum Manuscriptorum Ecclesia Cathedralis Dunelmensis (1825): 214 ("Nomina quae in Kalendario (supra Tr. 5.) occurrunt: XI. Kal. Octobr. [21 September] - Obiit Mathildis Comitissa de Moretonio."). Dugdale Monasticon Anglicanum 6(2) (1830): 1090-1091 (Robert, Count of Mortain, styled "brother" [fratris] of King William the Conqueror in charter dated 1189). Guerard Cartulaire de l'Abbaye de Saint-Bertin (Coll. des Cartulaires de France 3) (1840): 462-463 (Count Robert, brother of the King [i.e., King William the Conqueror] witness to doc. dated c.1066-87). Le Prévost Notes pour servir el la Topographie et a l'Histoire des Communes du Département de l'Eure (1849): 30-31 (charter dated April 1066 witnessed by William, Duke of Normandy, his wife, Maud, and his "brother" [fratris], Robert). Desroches Annales civiles, militaires et généalogiques du Pays d'Avranches (1856): 58. Munford Analysis of the Domesday Book of the County of Norfolk (1858): 7-8. Delisle Rouleaux des Morts du IXe au XVe Siècle (1866): 207-208, 289-290. Delisle Chronique de Robert de Torigni 1 (1872): 319 ("Siquidem Robertus, comes Moritonii, uterinus frater Willermi regis qui regnum Angliæ subjugavit, habuit unum filium Guillermum, qui ei successit ... et tres filias, quarum unam duxit Andreas de Vitreio, aliam Guido de Laval, terciam comes Tolosanus, frater Raimundi comitis Sancti Ægidii, qui in expeditione Ierosolimitana viriliter se habuit. Genuit autem ex ea comes Tolosanus unam solummodo filiam, quam Guillermus, comes Pictavensis et dux Aquitanorum, mortuo patre prædictæ puellæ, cum hereditate propria, scilicet urbe Tolosa et comitatu Tolosano, duxit uxorem; ex qua genuit idem Guillermus filium Guillermum nomine, qui ei successit, qui pater fuit Alienor, reginæ Anglorum."). Planché The Conqueror & his Companions 1 (1874): 107-116 (biog. of Robert, Comte de Mortain and Earl of Cornwall). Le Fizelier Mémoire chronologique de Maucourt de Bourjolly seer la Ville de Laval 1 (1886): 122-128. Recueil des Historiens des Gaules et de la France 23 (1894): 583 (Ex Obtuario Ecclesiæ Moretoniensis: "8. Dec. Obiit Robertus comes Moretonii fundator istius ecclesi"). Two Cartularies of the Augustinian Priory of Bruton & Cluniac Priory of Montacute (Somerset Rec. Soc. 8) (1894): 119-120 (foundation charter of William, Count of Mortain for Montacute Cartulary dated 1102; charter names his parents, Count Robert and Countess Matilda). Round Cal. of Docs. Preserved in France 918-1206 (1899): 108, 256 (charter of Robert, Count of Mortain dated ?1085), 256-257 (charter of Robert, Count of Mortain and Almodis his wife dated 1087-91), 359, 433. Notes & Oueries 9th Ser. 8 (1901): 525-526. Bréard L’Abbaye de Notre-Dame de Grestain (1904.) Rpt. & Trans. of the Devonshire Assoc. for the Advancement of Science, Lit. & Art 2nd Ser. 8 (1906): 338-339. D.N.B. 13 (1909): 1014 (biog. of Robert of Mortain, Count of Mortain). VCH Somerset 2 (1911): 111-115. C.P. 3 (1913): 427- 428 (sub Cornwall). Douglas Domesday Monachorum (1944): 33-36. Hull Cartulary of St. Michael's Mount (Devon & Cornwall Rec. Soc. n.s. 5) (1962): 3-4. Douglas William the Conqueror (1964). D. Bates "Herluin de Conteville et sa famille" in Annales de Normandie 23 (1973): 21-38. Brown Angle-Norman Studies III (1981): 74-75. Hull Cartulary of Launceston Priory (Devon & Cornwall Rec. Soc. n.s. 30) (1987): 2-4 (charter of Robert, Count of Mortain, Earl of Cornwall brother [frater] of William King of the English, and Maud his wife dated 1076). Bates and Gazeau `L'Abbaye de Grestain & la Famille d'Herluin de Conteville,' in Annales de Normandie 40 (1990): 5-30. Anglo-Norman Studies 13 (1991): 119-144. Haskins Soc. Jour. 3 (1991): 161-162. Bates & Curry England & Normandy in the Middle Ages (1994): 136-137. Cownie Religious Patronage in Anglo-Norman England, 1066-1135 (1998): 197-199. Fleming Domesday Book & the Law (1998).

    Children of Robert, Count of Mortain, by Maud de Montgomery:
    i. AGNES OF MORTAIN
    ii. EMMA OF MORTAIN, married WILLIAM IV, Count of Toulouse

    Maud married de Conteville, Earl Robert on 3 Apr 1058 in Mortagne, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France. Robert (son of de Conteville, Herluin and de Falaise, Herleva) was born in 1031 in Conteville, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France; died on 9 Dec 1095 in Grestain, Eure, Haute-Normandie, France; was buried after 9 Dec 1095 in Grestain Abbey, Grestain, Eure, Haute-Normandie, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 4. de Mortaigne, Agnes  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1066 in Mortain, Manche, Basse-Normandie, France; died on 1 May 1121 in Mortagne, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France.

  2. 3.  de Montgomery, Lord Roger III Descendancy chart to this point (1.Roger1) was born in 1058 in St Germain de Montgomery, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France; died in 1123 in Charroux, Allier, Auvergne, France; was buried in 1123 in Grestain, Eure, Haute-Normandie, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: La Marche, Creuse, Limousin, France; Count
    • Appointments / Titles: Lord of Lancaster
    • FSID: L1ZP-FLP

    Notes:

    Roger de Arundell, described in Domesday Book as holding lands in Dorset and Somerset, 20 Will Conqueror, A.D. 1086.

    Roger married de la Marche, Almodis in 1108. Almodis was born in 1062 in La Marche, Creuse, Limousin, France; died in 1116 in Poitou-Charentes, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 5. de la Marche, Poncia  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 1 Sep 1091 in Aquitaine, France; died in 1138 in Angoulême, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France; was buried in 1138 in Abbey of Notre-Dame de La Couronne, La Couronne, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  de Mortaigne, Agnes Descendancy chart to this point (2.Maud2, 1.Roger1) was born in 1066 in Mortain, Manche, Basse-Normandie, France; died on 1 May 1121 in Mortagne, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: M8X3-52W

    Family/Spouse: de Vitré, André. André (son of de Vitré, Seigneur of Vitré Robert I and de Craon, Berthe) was born on 28 May 1054 in Vitré, Ille-et-Vilaine, Bretagne, France; died on 4 Dec 1139 in Orne, Basse-Normandie, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 6. de Guingamp, Havise  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 17 Jun 1063 in Vitré, Ille-et-Vilaine, Bretagne, France; died in DECEASED in England.

  2. 5.  de la Marche, Poncia Descendancy chart to this point (3.Roger2, 1.Roger1) was born on 1 Sep 1091 in Aquitaine, France; died in 1138 in Angoulême, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France; was buried in 1138 in Abbey of Notre-Dame de La Couronne, La Couronne, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Countess of Angoulême
    • Appointments / Titles: Countess of de la Marche
    • FSID: LB7R-1BV

    Notes:

    Pontia de La Marche
    Birth: circa 1109 La March, Normandy, France
    Death: Angouleme,France
    Daughter of Roger 'le Poitevin' Montgommerie, comte de la Marche and Almodis, Comtesse de La Marche
    Wife of Vulgrin II, comte d'Angoulême
    Mother of Guillame Taillefer of Angouleme, Comte of Angouleme
    Sister of Amélie de Montgomery; Aldebert Iii de Montgommery, Comte De La Marche; Avice Peverell, Countess Lancaster & Nottingham; Boson de La Marche, Iv and Eudes / Odo Ii de La Marche, Comte

    Poncia married de Taillefer, Wulgrin II in 1123 in France. Wulgrin (son of de Taillefer, WIlliam V and de Benauges, Vitapoy) was born in 1089 in Angoulême, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France; died on 16 Sep 1140 in Bouteville, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France; was buried on 16 Sep 1140 in Abbey of Notre-Dame de La Couronne, La Couronne, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 7. de Taillefer, WIlliam VI  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 20 Aug 1125 in Angoulême, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France; died on 7 Aug 1178 in Messina, Messina, Sicilia, Italy; was buried on 7 Aug 1178 in Abbey of Notre-Dame de La Couronne, La Couronne, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France.


Generation: 4

  1. 6.  de Guingamp, Havise Descendancy chart to this point (4.Agnes3, 2.Maud2, 1.Roger1) was born on 17 Jun 1063 in Vitré, Ille-et-Vilaine, Bretagne, France; died in DECEASED in England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Derby, Derbyshire, England; Countess of Derby
    • FSID: LBK3-87T

    Family/Spouse: de Ferrers, Lord Robert. Robert (son of de Ferrers, Lord Henry and Roberts, Bertha) was born on 9 Jul 1062 in Falaise, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France; died on 1 Jun 1139 in Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire, England; was buried on 1 Jun 1139 in Tutbury, Staffordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 8. de Ferrers, Matilda  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1142 in Tutbury, Staffordshire, England; died in 1175 in England.

  2. 7.  de Taillefer, WIlliam VI Descendancy chart to this point (5.Poncia3, 3.Roger2, 1.Roger1) was born on 20 Aug 1125 in Angoulême, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France; died on 7 Aug 1178 in Messina, Messina, Sicilia, Italy; was buried on 7 Aug 1178 in Abbey of Notre-Dame de La Couronne, La Couronne, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • House: House of Taillefer
    • FSID: MQ97-2VC
    • Appointments / Titles: Between 1140 and 1178, France; Count of Angoulême

    Notes:

    William VI of Angoulême also was known as William Taillefer IV. The eldest son of Count Wulgrin II of Angoulême and his first wife, Poncia, daughter of Roger the Poitevin and Almodis, he succeeded his father at the head of the county of Angoulême in 1140. William married first Emma of Limoges. He married a second time to Marguerite of Turenne, daughter of viscount Raymond I of Turenne.

    It is from him, that the territory was passed down through sons of William VI: Wulgrin III of Angoulême who was the eldest, William VII of Angoulême, and Aymer of Angoulême.

    After the death of Aymer, the territory did not pass to Aymer's daughter, Isabella of Angoulême, Queen consort to John of England, but rather to the daughter of Wulgrim III, Mathilde of Angoulême, who had married Hugh IX of Lusignan, father of Hugh X of Lusignan.

    -- Wikiwand: William VI of Angoulême

    (recorded on a duplicate record)
    Died while on Crusade in Città Metropolitana di Messina, Sicilia, Italy.

    WIlliam married de Limoges, Emma in 1160 in Angoulême, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France. Emma (daughter of de Limoges, Adémar III and de Taillefer, Graule) was born in 1115 in Limoges, Haute-Vienne, Limousin, France; died on 16 Jun 1162 in Angoulême, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France; was buried after 16 Jun 1162 in Abbey of Notre-Dame de La Couronne, La Couronne, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 9. de Taillefer, Aymar  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 23 Aug 1160 in Angoulême, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France; died on 16 Jun 1202 in Limoges, Haute-Vienne, Limousin, France; was buried on 16 Jun 1202 in Abbey of Notre-Dame de La Couronne, La Couronne, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France.