Thomas, John Phillip

Male 1554 - 1584  (30 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Thomas, John Phillip was born in 1554 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales (son of ap Gruffydd, Thomas and Scudamore, Sybill); died in 1584 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales; was buried in 1584 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Nickname: Scion

    Notes:

    John ap Philip Thomas
    From GENi

    John ap Philip Thomas
    Also Known As: "Sion"
    Birthdate: circa 1554 (26)
    Birthplace: Monmouthshire, Wales, United Kingdom
    Death: Died 1580 in Monmouthshire, Wales, United Kingdom

    Immediate Family:
    Father:
    Philip ap Thomas
    Sybell Griffith / Rice / Thomas
    Spouse:
    Gwenllian Thomas
    Children:
    Rice Thomas
    Evan Thomas

    In 1585 John Philip Thomas inherited the Grosmont-Manor. He married in Swansea and had issue.

    The manor of Grosmont comprised the parishes of Grosmont and Llangua, the boundaries being identical, together with that part of the parish of Llanfihangel lying between the brook called and the boundary of Llangua, being the hamlet of Penbiddle.

    John married Herbert, Gwenllian in 1578 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales. Gwenllian (daughter of Herbert, Watkin and Thomas, Margaret) was born in 1558 in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in 1584 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales; was buried in 1584 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Thomas, Evan was born in 1580 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales; was christened in England; died in 1650 in Maryland, USA; was buried in 1650 in Maryland, USA.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  ap Gruffydd, Thomasap Gruffydd, Thomas was born in 1520 in Carmarthenshire, Wales (son of ap Rhys, Gruffydd and Jones, Lady Eleanor); died in 1585 in Ebbemant, Caemarthen, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: L7XL-KJG

    Thomas married Scudamore, Sybill in 1553 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales. Sybill (daughter of Skydmore, John and Vaughan, Sybil) was born in 1536 in Glamorgan, Wales; died in 1635 in Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Scudamore, Sybill was born in 1536 in Glamorgan, Wales (daughter of Skydmore, John and Vaughan, Sybil); died in 1635 in Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: LZSG-8BQ
    • Birth: 1533, Llanfallteg West, Pembrokeshire, Wales

    Children:
    1. 1. Thomas, John Phillip was born in 1554 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales; died in 1584 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales; was buried in 1584 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  ap Rhys, Gruffyddap Rhys, Gruffydd was born in 1524 in Newton House, Llandeilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales (son of ap Gruffydd, Sir Rhys and Howard, Lady Catherine); died in 1588 in Bures Saint Mary, Suffolk, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: L6GB-V48
    • Birth: 1508, Newton, Lancashire, England

    Gruffydd married Jones, Lady Eleanor. Eleanor (daughter of Jones, Thomas) was born in 1529 in Newton House, Llandeilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales; died in 1595 in Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Jones, Lady Eleanor was born in 1529 in Newton House, Llandeilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales (daughter of Jones, Thomas); died in 1595 in Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Lady

    Children:
    1. 2. ap Gruffydd, Thomas was born in 1520 in Carmarthenshire, Wales; died in 1585 in Ebbemant, Caemarthen, Wales.

  3. 6.  Skydmore, John was born in 1510 in Mayshill, Gloucestershire, England (son of Skidmore, Richard and Mynors, Alice); died on 30 Oct 1570 in Bath Abbey, Bath, Somerset, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: KNQ6-R9W

    Notes:

    Last name can be Scudamer, Scudmore, Skidmore, Scudamer, Skydmore, etc

    John married Vaughan, Sybil in 1538 in Holme Lacy, Herefordshire, England. Sybil (daughter of Vaughn, Watkin and Baskerville, Elizabeth) was born in 1518 in Hergest, Kington, Herefordshire, England; died in 1566 in England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Vaughan, Sybil was born in 1518 in Hergest, Kington, Herefordshire, England (daughter of Vaughn, Watkin and Baskerville, Elizabeth); died in 1566 in England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: 2ZSH-637
    • Name: Scudmore
    • Name: Scudmore
    • Name: Scudmore
    • Name: Sibil Vaughan
    • Name: Sibil Vaughan
    • Name: Sibil Vaughan
    • Name: Sibill Vaughn
    • Name: Sibill Vaughn
    • Name: Sibill Vaughn

    Children:
    1. 3. Scudamore, Sybill was born in 1536 in Glamorgan, Wales; died in 1635 in Wales.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  ap Gruffydd, Sir Rhysap Gruffydd, Sir Rhys was born in 1508 in Wales (son of ap Rhys, Gruffydd and St John, Catherine); died in Dec 1531 in Tower Hill, London, London, England; was buried on 4 Jan 1532 in England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Knight
    • FSID: LXQS-85R

    Notes:

    Rhys ap Gruffydd (rebel)

    Rhys ap Gruffydd (1508–1531) was a powerful Welsh landowner who was accused of rebelling against King Henry VIII by plotting with James V of Scotland to become Prince of Wales . He was executed as a rebel. He married Lady Catherine Howard (b. abt 1499 Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England), the daughter of Thomas Howard, 2nd Duke of Norfolk and his second wife Agnes Tilney .

    Early life
    Rhys was the grandson of Rhys ap Thomas , the most powerful man in Wales and close ally of Henry VII . Rhys was a descendant of the medieval Welsh king Rhys ap Gruffydd (1132–1197), his namesake. His father, Gruffydd ap Rhys ap Thomas , died in 1521, leaving him his grandfather’s heir. In 1524 Rhys married Catherine Howard, daughter of Thomas Howard, 2nd Duke of Norfolk .[1]

    As his grandfather’s heir, Rhys expected to inherit his estates and titles. When Rhys ap Thomas died in 1525, Henry VIII gave his most important titles and powers to Walter Devereux, Lord Ferrers, leading to a feud between Rhys and Ferrers which escalated over the next few years.

    Conflict with Ferrers
    Rhys attempted to increase his status in Wales, petitioning Cardinal Thomas Wolsey to be given various posts. Potential for conflict with Ferrers increased when both men were given the right to extend their number of retainers; this led to the emergence of competing armed gangs.[2] The bad-blood between Rhys and Ferrers reached a crisis-point in June 1529 when Ferrers made a display of his status during preparations for the annual Court of Great Sessions in Carmarthen. Rhys, surrounded by forty armed men, threatened Ferrers with a knife. Rhys was arrested and imprisoned in Carmarthen Castle . Rhys’s wife Catherine escalated the situation by collecting hundreds of her supporters and attacking the castle. She later threatened Ferrers himself with an armed gang. In the conflict between the two factions several of Ferrers’s men were killed. The factions continued to cause other disruptions over the coming months, leading to deaths in street-fights and acts of piracy.

    Treason charges
    The rebellious actions of Rhys’s supporters led to Rhys’s transfer to prison in London by 1531. By this stage Henry was claiming that Rhys was attempting to overthrow his government in Wales. Rhys had added the title Fitz-Urien to his name, referring to Urien , the ancient Welsh ruler of Rheged , a person of mythical significance. Rhys’s accusers claimed that this was an attempt to assert himself as Prince of Wales. He was supposed to be plotting with James V of Scotland to overthrow Henry in fulfilment of ancient Welsh prophesies.

    Rhys was convicted of treason and was executed in December 1531. The execution caused widespread dismay and he was openly said to have been innocent.[2] Contemporary writer Ellis Gruffudd, however, argued that the arrogance of the Rhys family had caused their downfall, saying that “many men regarded his death as Divine retribution for the falsehoods of his ancestors, his grandfather, and great-grandfather, and for their oppressions and wrongs. They had many a deep curse from the poor people who were their neighbours, for depriving them of their homes, lands and riches.”[3]

    Historian Ralph Griffith asserts that “Rhys’s execution...was an act of judicial murder based on charges devised to suit the prevailing political and dynastic situation”. Since it was linked to Henry’s attempt to centralise power and break with the church of Rome, he argues that it “in retrospect made him [Rhys] one of the earliest martyrs of the English Reformation.”[2] Rhys was believed to be opposed to the Reformation and had spoken disparagingly of Anne Boleyn . He had also been friendly with Katherine of Aragon and Cardinal Wolsey, so ridding himself of Rhys helped Henry to prepare the ground for the Reformation.[4] The execution led to fears of a Welsh rebellion. One clergyman was concerned that the Welsh and Irish would join together.[2]

    Family
    With his death Rhys’ vast possessions were forfeit to the crown. His children are known by the Anglicised surname “Rice”. His son, Griffith Rice (c.1530–1584), was restored to some of the family estates by Queen Mary .[1] His daughter Agnes Rice had a celebrated affair with William Stourton, 7th Baron Stourton , and in defiance of the rights of his widow and children, she inherited much of the Stourton estates after his death. She later married Sir Edward Baynton, and had children by both William and Edward.

    Rhys’ grandson Henry Rice aka Price Rhys, born 1634 Redstone, Pembrokeshire is listed on Rootsweb along with his descendants.

    References
    [1] Dictionary of Welsh Biography, National Library of Wales
    [2] Ralph Griffith, Rhys ap Thomas and his Family, University of Wales Press, Cardiff, 1993, pp.106, 110–11.
    [3] Griffiths, p.72.
    [4] London Carmarthenshire society, A history of Carmarthenshire, Volume 1, Society by W. Lewis limited, 1935, p.263.

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    Rhys married Howard, Lady Catherine in 1524 in North Crawley, Buckinghamshire, England. Catherine (daughter of Howard, Lord Duke Thomas I and Tilney, Lady Elizabeth Agnes) was born on 30 May 1499 in Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England; died on 10 May 1554 in Howard Chapel, Lambeth, Surrey, England; was buried on 21 May 1554 in Howard Chapel, Lambeth, Surrey, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Howard, Lady Catherine was born on 30 May 1499 in Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England (daughter of Howard, Lord Duke Thomas I and Tilney, Lady Elizabeth Agnes); died on 10 May 1554 in Howard Chapel, Lambeth, Surrey, England; was buried on 21 May 1554 in Howard Chapel, Lambeth, Surrey, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Countess of Bridgewater
    • FSID: 9SLR-JRR

    Children:
    1. 4. ap Rhys, Gruffydd was born in 1524 in Newton House, Llandeilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales; died in 1588 in Bures Saint Mary, Suffolk, England.

  3. 10.  Jones, Thomas
    Children:
    1. 5. Jones, Lady Eleanor was born in 1529 in Newton House, Llandeilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales; died in 1595 in Wales.

  4. 12.  Skidmore, Richard was born in 1480 in Mayshill, Gloucestershire, England (son of Skidmore, Robert and Vaughn, Sybell); died on 30 Oct 1542 in Mayshill, Gloucestershire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: KV2L-HPR

    Notes:

    Also spelled Scudamore, Skydemore, Scudamore, Skydemore.

    Richard married Mynors, Alice. Alice was born in 1492 in Holme Lacy, Herefordshire, England; died in DECEASED in Mayshill, Gloucestershire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  5. 13.  Mynors, Alice was born in 1492 in Holme Lacy, Herefordshire, England; died in DECEASED in Mayshill, Gloucestershire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: KHRV-CX8

    Children:
    1. 6. Skydmore, John was born in 1510 in Mayshill, Gloucestershire, England; died on 30 Oct 1570 in Bath Abbey, Bath, Somerset, England.

  6. 14.  Vaughn, Watkin was born in 1488 in Hergest, Kington, Herefordshire, England (son of Vaughn, Watkin); died in DECEASED in England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Gentleman Usher of King Henry VIII
    • FSID: LZQQ-DQG

    Notes:

    Gentleman Usher of Henry VIII

    Watkin married Baskerville, Elizabeth in 1517 in Hergest, Kington, Herefordshire, England. Elizabeth (daughter of Baskerville, Sir James and Devereux, Sybil) was born in 1496 in Hergest, Kington, Herefordshire, England; died in 1558 in England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  7. 15.  Baskerville, Elizabeth was born in 1496 in Hergest, Kington, Herefordshire, England (daughter of Baskerville, Sir James and Devereux, Sybil); died in 1558 in England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: LZDG-2VV

    Children:
    1. 7. Vaughan, Sybil was born in 1518 in Hergest, Kington, Herefordshire, England; died in 1566 in England.