Herbert, Watkin

Herbert, Watkin

Male 1517 - 1564  (47 years)

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  1. 1.  Herbert, WatkinHerbert, Watkin was born in 1517 in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales (son of Herbert, Sir William Thomas and Walbeoffe, Anne); died in 1564 in Monmouthshire, Wales; was buried in 1564 in Newport Catherdral of St Woollos, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Sir Knight
    • Nickname: Walter
    • Appointments / Titles: Between 1541 and 1542; High Sherriff of Breconshire
    • Appointments / Titles: Between 1547 and 1548; High Sheriff of Breconshire
    • Appointments / Titles: Between 1551 and 1552; High Sheriff of Monmouthshire
    • Will: 9 Mar 1551
    • Appointments / Titles: 1558; Member of Parliment for Breconshire

    Notes:

    From the History of Parliment

    ConstituencyDates
    BRECONSHIRE
    1558
    Family and Education
    b. by 1517, s. of William Thomas Herbert of Crickhowel by a da. of Jenkin Melyf. m. Margaret, da. of Morgan Thomas Hir, at least 1s.1

    Offices Held
    Sheriff, Brec. 1541-2, 1547-8, Mon. 1551-2; commr. subsidy, Brec. 1543, relief 1550, goods of churches and fraternities 1553; j.p. 1555, q. 1558/59-64.2

    Biography
    The Herbert family of Crickhowel was of illegitimate descent from Sir Richard Herbert (d.1469) of Coldbrook, Monmouthshire, brother of the then Earl of Pembroke. Walter Herbert, who was also known by the diminutive Watkin, is to be distinguished from a namesake of Brecon who was a justice in 1543 and commissioner in 1550, with Herbert, for the collection of the third part of the relief. It is clear from later evidence that it was Walter Herbert of Crickhowel who in March 1538 leased for £42 a year all the mills in the lordship of Brecon and fishery rights in the Neath and Tawe rivers. As Watkin Herbert he became the second sheriff of the new county of Brecon: he was to serve a second term there and one in Monmouthshire. He sued out a general pardon at the accession of Mary and was involved in litigation for debt at the great sessions in 1554. Of the circumstances of his return to the last Parliament of the reign, or of the part which he played in it, nothing has been discovered.3

    At Elizabeth’s accession Herbert again secured a general pardon, and his dependability was shown by his being put on the quorum of the Breconshire bench. After 1564 nothing more is heard of him, no will or inquisition surviving.4

    Ref Volumes: 1509-1558
    Author: P. S. Edwards
    Notes
    1. Date of birth estimated from first reference. Dwnn. Vis. Wales, ii. 37; Harl. ch. 111 B26; Cat. Mss Wales (Cymmrod. rec. ser. iv), 588.
    2. E179/219/29; CPR, 1553, pp. 364419; 1563-6, p. 29; SP11/5/6.
    3. G. T. Clark, Limbus Patrum Morganiae, 301; C193/12/1; LP Hen. VIII, xiii, xix; CPR, CPR, 1553, p. 364; 1555-7, p. 484; NLW ms Wales 17/5.
    4.CPR, 1558-60, p. 193.

    Watkin Herbert
    From GENi

    Watkin Herbert
    Birthdate: 1525
    Birthplace: Monmouthshire, Wales, United Kingdom
    Death: (Date and location unknown)

    Immediate Family:
    Father:
    Charles Herbert
    Mother:
    Elizabeth Herbert
    Spouse:
    Catrin verch Thomas
    Children:
    Gwenllian Thomas;
    Alice Herbert;
    Blanche Herbert;
    Catherine Herbert;
    Charles Herbert;
    3 others
    Siblings:
    Blanche Herbert;
    Joan Herbert:
    John Herbert

    Occupation:
    Sheriff of Monmouthshire in 1552

    Watkin married Thomas, Margaret in 1557 in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales. Margaret (daughter of Thomas, Morgan) was born in 1536 in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in 1580 in Monmouthshire, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Herbert, Gwenllian was born in 1558 in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in 1584 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales; was buried in 1584 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Herbert, Sir William ThomasHerbert, Sir William Thomas was born in 1465 in Coldbrook, Monmouthshire, Wales (son of Herbert, Sir Richard and verch Thomas, Lady Margaret); died in 1540 in Crickhowell, Breconshire, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: LR9B-QJC

    Notes:

    Richard and Margaret had three sons, one of whom was William Herbert, 1st Earl of Pembroke, who became the 1st Earl of Pembroke (2nd Creation) on 11 October 1551. Existing Earls of Pembroke and Montgomery, and of Carnarvon, of the Duke of Powis, of Pool Castle (extinct 1747), descend from Sir Richard Herbert. Through the female line, of the Marquis of Bute, derives his Glamorganshire estates. William married Anne Parr, sister of Queen Catherine Parr, the sixth and last wife of Henry VIII. William served Henry VIII in many capacities, including Chief Gentleman on the Privy Chamber and the Privy Council and Receiver of the King's revenues. He was knighted in 1544 and later elected to the Knights of the Garter. The other son was Sir George Herbert of Swansea was ancestor to the Herberts of Swansea, Cogan, Cookham and the White Friars, extinct in 1739. Candleston Castle passed from Richard and Margaret to George.

    From the Annals and Antiquites of the Counties and County families of Wales
    Herberts of Crickhowel.

    The beginning of the Herberts of Crickhowel was with William Herbert, illegitimate son (as Jones, Hist. Brec, and the St. Mark's Coll. MS., say) of Sir Richard Herbert, of Colebrook, near Abergavenny, 2nd brother of William, 1st Earl of Pembroke. William married Anne, daughter of Jenkin Walbeoffe, and in part through the lands obtained by this marriage, but principally in the capacity of steward of Lord Herbert's large possessions in these parts, he came to reside at Crickhowel. His son, Watkin Herbert, Esq., married Margaret, daughter of Morgan Thomas. [Watkin Herbert was Sheriff 1540.]

    Edward Herbert, his son, in. Elizabeth, daughter of Edward Lewis of Van, Esq.: "sa. a lion rampant, arg. in a bordure gabonated, or, gu." His son and heir,—
    William Herbert, Esq. [of Crickhowel, Sheriff 1546], m. Mary, daughter of Dr. William Awbrey, LL.D.: az. a chevron between 3 eagles' heads, erased, or. Note.—Herbert of Crughowel's Arms are bordered, vert, bezanted. William Herbert had three sons :—

    1. Edward Herbert, Esq. [of Crickhowel, Sheriff 1566], m. [Anne,] daughter of John Jeffreys [of Abercynrig], and had a son Walter [living when St. Mark's Coll. MS. was written].

    2. Sir John Herbert, Kt, 2nd son, »»....

    3. Henry Herbert, 3rd son, m. a daughter of Edward Williams, of Llangattwg, and had a son Edward, who m. a daughter and a co-h. of Edward Games, of Buckland [living when the St. Mark's Coll. MS. was written].

    So far the MS. The days of the Herberts of Crughowel were now nearly passing away; twice or thrice more the name appears in the list of Breconshire Sheriffs:—" John Herbert" in 1634, and again two years running, 1640, 1641; and "Sir John Herbert, of Crickhowel, Kt.," probably the same person, in 1662, and then disappears finally from that list. Sir John Herbert died A.d. 1666, leaving but a daughter, who m. William de Hunt, Esq., Sergeant at Law.

    The castellated mansion of the Herberts at Crickhowel must have been one of some magnificence. No part of the house now remains, but its site is ascertained by the old gateway, of decorated Gothic, at the entrance to the quadrangle, which still stands uninjured, and goes under the appropriate name of Porthmawr—the Great Gate. This beautiful archway is a puzzle to the passer by and to many writers of guide-books, for its expression is undeniably antique, while the house to which it is now attached, and which has been baptized with the name of the Old Gateway, is modern, and out of character with the style. Jones tells us that in his time the archway was called Cwrt Garu>, or more correctly, as he thought, Cwrt y Carw, or the Stag's Court; but for neither the one nor the other does he give a reason. Porthmawr, therefore, must be a very recent name.

    William married Walbeoffe, Anne. Anne (daughter of Walbeoffe, Jenkin and Walbeoffe, Mrs Jenkin) was born in 1508 in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in DECEASED in Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Walbeoffe, Anne was born in 1508 in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales (daughter of Walbeoffe, Jenkin and Walbeoffe, Mrs Jenkin); died in DECEASED in Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: MV8T-WQ6

    Children:
    1. 1. Herbert, Watkin was born in 1517 in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in 1564 in Monmouthshire, Wales; was buried in 1564 in Newport Catherdral of St Woollos, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Herbert, Sir RichardHerbert, Sir Richard was born in 1423 in Raglan Castle, Raglan, Monmouthshire, Wales (son of Herbert, Howel ap Thomas and verch Dafydd Gam, Gwladys); died on 27 Jul 1469 in Edgecote Moor, Banbury, Oxfordshire, England; was buried on 5 Aug 1469 in Tintern Abbey, Tintern, Monmouthshire, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: 9H86-NF9

    Notes:

    Richard Herbert of Coldbrook

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Sir Richard Herbert (d. 1469) of Coldbrook Park, near Abergavenny was a 15th-century Welsh knight, and the lineal ancestor of the Herberts of Chirbury.

    He was the son of William ap Thomas of Raglan Castle and Gwladys ferch Dafydd Gam, and the brother of William Herbert, Earl of Pembroke. He married Margaret, sister of Sir Rhys ap Thomas. They had two sons: Sir William Herbert of Coldbrook, and Sir Richard Herbert of Powys. His great-grandson, Edward Herbert, was raised to the peerage in 1629.

    Like his brother, he was a supporter of the House of York during the Wars of the Roses. He fought alongside his brother at the Battle of Edgecote Moor (a Lancastrian victory), where he was captured and executed. He is interred with his wife at Abergavenny Priory, near other members of his family.

    References
    Dwnn & p. 293.
    Wilkins & p.99.
    Coxe & p. 172.

    Bibliography
    Coxe, William (1801). A Historical Tour Through Monmouthshire. Hereford: Davies & Co.
    Dwnn, Lewys (1613). Heraldic Visitations of Wales and Part of the Marches Between 1586 and 1613. Llandovery: Welsh MSS. Society.
    Wilkins, Charles (1884). The Red Dragon: The National Magazine of Wales (vol. 5). Cardiff: Daniel Owen & Co.

    Richard married verch Thomas, Lady Margaret in 1454 in Coldbrook, Monmouthshire, Wales. Margaret (daughter of ap Gruffydd, Thomas and Griffith, Mrs Elizabeth) was born in 1444 in Manordeilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales; died on 26 Mar 1499 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales; was buried in Mar 1499 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  verch Thomas, Lady Margaret was born in 1444 in Manordeilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales (daughter of ap Gruffydd, Thomas and Griffith, Mrs Elizabeth); died on 26 Mar 1499 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales; was buried in Mar 1499 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: LZG3-Y5F

    Children:
    1. 2. Herbert, Sir William Thomas was born in 1465 in Coldbrook, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in 1540 in Crickhowell, Breconshire, Wales.

  3. 6.  Walbeoffe, Jenkin was born in 1483 in Conwil Caio, Carmarthenshire, Wales; died in DECEASED in Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: MV8T-WWQ

    Jenkin married Walbeoffe, Mrs Jenkin in 1507 in Conwil Caio, Carmarthenshire, Wales. Jenkin was born in 1487 in Conwil Caio, Carmarthenshire, Wales; died in DECEASED in Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Walbeoffe, Mrs Jenkin was born in 1487 in Conwil Caio, Carmarthenshire, Wales; died in DECEASED in Wales.
    Children:
    1. 3. Walbeoffe, Anne was born in 1508 in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in DECEASED in Wales.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Herbert, Howel ap Thomas was born in 1392 in Raglan Castle, Raglan, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in 1446 in Raglan Castle, Raglan, Monmouthshire, Wales; was buried in 1446 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: 9CX4-WDK

    Howel married verch Dafydd Gam, Gwladys in 1421 in Hereford, Herefordshire, England. Gwladys (daughter of ap Llewelyn, Sir Dafydd and verch Hywel, Mali) was born in 1396 in Peuten, Llanddew, Breconshire, Wales; died in 1454 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales; was buried in 1454 in Abergavenny Church, Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  verch Dafydd Gam, Gwladys was born in 1396 in Peuten, Llanddew, Breconshire, Wales (daughter of ap Llewelyn, Sir Dafydd and verch Hywel, Mali); died in 1454 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales; was buried in 1454 in Abergavenny Church, Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: LZ6B-G7Y

    Notes:

    From LifeSketch

    Gwladys ferch Dafydd Gam (died 1454) was a Welsh noblewoman, the daughter of Dafydd ap Llewelyn ap Hywel, otherwise known as Dafydd Gam, who was killed at the Battle of Agincourt in 1415. Gwladys was named "the star of Abergavenny" (Welsh: Seren-y-fenni) —"Gwladys the happy and the faultless" by Welsh poet Lewys Glyn Cothi. He describes the lady of Raglan Castle, which she became upon her second marriage, as a brilliant being, "like the sun—the pavilion of light." She has been compared to the legendary Queen Marcia for her discretion and influence.

    Children:
    1. 4. Herbert, Sir Richard was born in 1423 in Raglan Castle, Raglan, Monmouthshire, Wales; died on 27 Jul 1469 in Edgecote Moor, Banbury, Oxfordshire, England; was buried on 5 Aug 1469 in Tintern Abbey, Tintern, Monmouthshire, Wales.

  3. 10.  ap Gruffydd, Thomas was born in 1429 in Glamorgan, Wales (son of ap Nicholas, Gruffydd and ap Donne, Mabel); died in Apr 1474 in Bardsey Island, Caernarvonshire, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Nickname: FitzUryan
    • FSID: LDCW-1ZT

    Notes:

    From The Thomas Family:

    Thomas ap Gruffyd, who is described as a man of a character very different from his turbulent father, and one of the most accomplished gentlemen of the age, with a mildness of disposition and elegance of manners rarely found in those cruel times of civil warfare. To avoid taking part in the contests of the rival houses of York and Lancaster he withdrew to the accomplished Court of Burgundy, then ruled over by Philip the Good, in whose service he enrolled himself. There he became famous for his boldness and skill in the tilt and tourney, and in single combat. After the death of his first wife, Elizabeth Griffith, his gallantry and gracious disposition are said to have won the affections of a near relative of the Duke, and Thomas, having probably offended by his presumption the Duke's heir, the Count of Charolois (afterward so well known as Charles the Bold) was compelled to return to Wales. There he had constant encounters with his neighbours, particularly Henry ap Gwilym of Court Henry in the Vale of Towey, between whose family and his there seems to have existed an ancient feud. His last duel took place some time toward the end of Henry the Sixth's reign, or the beginning of that of Edward the Fourth, when he fought with David Gough somewhere in Merionethshire and killed him. Having laid aside his armour and thrown himself upon the ground to rest after the combat, he was treacherously run through the body and killed by one of Cough's retainers. He was buried in the Abbey of Bardsey, Caernarvonshire.

    He was m. to Elizabeth, dau. and heiress of Sir John Griffith of Abermarlais, and possibly1 to another Elizabeth, dau. of James de Burgoigne, natural son of Philip, Duke of Burgundy, or herself a natural dau. of the Duke; from her descended the great clan of Johnes of Abermarlais. Dolau Cothy, Llanbadarnfawr, and Hafod. It has given ten high sheriffs to Cardigan, Caermarthen, and Pembroke; numbered among its members Thomas Johnes, the translator of Froissart, and was represented by John Johnes, Esq., of Dolau Cothy, J. P. and D. L. for Caermarthen in 1872. By his first wife Thomas ap Gruffyd had issue:
    L MORGAN, killed in the Civil Wars. .
    ii. DAVID, killed in the Civil Wars.
    Bi. A dau., m. GRIFFITH AP HOWELL, issue .
    JAMES AP GRIFFITH (f. v.).

    iv. MARGARET, m. SIR RICHARD HERBERT, of Coldbrook (a. v.).
    v. RHYS or REES, his heir, of whom presently.
    vi. Another dau., m. JOHN, 4th son of WILLIAM HERBERT, Earl of
    Pembroke {a. v.).
    rii. DAVID 2d.
    viii. JOHN.
    bt. Possibly a second MARGARET, m. JOHN HERLE, of Brecknock.
    Thomas ap Gruffydd's two elder sons, Morgan and David, became, immediately on their father's decease, warm partizans, on opposite sides, of the houses of York and Lancaster. When Jasper, Earl of Pembroke, after the overthrow of Queen Margaret at Tewkesbury, retired to Pembroke, accompanied by his nephew, Henry, Earl of Richmond, Morgan ap Thomas invested the castle, in order to prevent their escaping out of the country. Upon this David ap Thomas hastily collected together about two thousand men, armed any way,
    1 Reusnenes says: '"One such daughter married apud Britones."
    fell on the besiegers by surprise, obliged them to retire, and gave the Earl and his young charge an opportunity to escape to Tenby, whence they immediately sailed to Brittany. This is nearly all that is recorded of these two brothers. But both are said to have lost their lives in the Wars of the Roses.

    Thomas married Griffith, Mrs Elizabeth in 1445 in Carmarthenshire, Wales. Elizabeth (daughter of Griffith, John Francis and Tyrwhit, Catherine) was born in 1425 in Wichnor, Staffordshire, England; died in 1514 in Newton House, Llandeilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales; was buried in 1514 in Caernarvonshire, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  Griffith, Mrs Elizabeth was born in 1425 in Wichnor, Staffordshire, England (daughter of Griffith, John Francis and Tyrwhit, Catherine); died in 1514 in Newton House, Llandeilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales; was buried in 1514 in Caernarvonshire, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: L51W-46F
    • Name: Elizabeth Gruffydd
    • Birth: 1420, Tatenhill, Staffordshire, England

    Children:
    1. ap Thomas, Lord Rhys was born in 1449 in Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire, Wales; died in 1525 in Carmarthen Priory (destroyed), Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire, Wales; was buried in Jul 1527 in St Peter Churchyard, Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire, Wales.
    2. 5. verch Thomas, Lady Margaret was born in 1444 in Manordeilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales; died on 26 Mar 1499 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales; was buried in Mar 1499 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales.