Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Baker Servant

Notes:

In 1634 he went to war. On 29 Dec 1639 he hanged himself in his home; which was in front of the upper gate.

Caspar married Wagner, Elizabeth on 21 Nov 1606 in Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany. Elizabeth was born in UNKNOWN in Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; died before 12 Jul 1636 in Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; was buried on 12 Jul 1636 in Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

She was the daughter of Hildburghausen baker, Valtin Wagner; had six children.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Hackney driver or civil servant who rides for the city

Notes:

In 1574 he was sued by the step sons from his first marriage to N. Naumann for 300 florins. Evidently this money was from the estate of his step-sons real father and Michael was supposedly to keep it for them until his step sons reached maturity. Evidently, he never gave them the money, so they sued him.

Based on the marriage record of his daughter, Anastasia, he was evidently dead before her marriage.
From Chip Kalb:
By the way, when I got your reply, I was eyeballing Joel Seigler, Margaretha Klipper and Michael Scheber up and down that Klipper Genealogy.  I couldn’t find anything wrong with any of them until I got to that infamous item about “Ihme sein Schwager Herr Joël Siegler des Rhats alhier” in that verdammt will.  When I read it as “my brother-in-law Mr. Joël Siegler of the [ City ] Council of this place [ Hildburghausen ]”, I remembered that, like the English language, the German language is not carved in stone.  It is always changing with the times, and not just in the spelling.  As any etymological dictionary will show in any language, words do not always keep the same meanings.  What might make perfect sense to Martin Luther in 1516 would not make any sense to his descendants in 2016!

So I looked up “Schwager” in Ernest Thode’s German-English Genealogical Dictionary.  Here is his definition : “brother-in-law ; father-in-law ; relative ; good friend.”   ( It was the same in Ye Olde English. ).  So, when Michael Klipper wrote his will in 1606, Joël Siegler was still his “good friend”, not his “brother-in-law”.  He didn’t become his brother-in-law for real until 1614, when he married Anastasia’s mother.

So why was Anastasia described as a privigna of Joëlÿ Siegler?   If her father had ever left a will, it is not available online.  But, if he did make his will, we can assume that he took his real brother-in-law’s suggestion and made Mr Siegler the legal guardian of his children.  Even if he didn’t, there might be bonds of guardianship for his children.  So, when Anastasia’s marriage record called her the privigna of Joëlÿ Siegler, it meant that she was his ward, not his step-daughter.  That means that her father, Michael Scheber, was already dead by 1606.

Michael married Klipper, Margaretha in 1572 in Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany. Margaretha (daughter of Klipper, Conrad "Cuntz" and Schulmacher, N.N.) was born in UNKNOWN in Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; died before 6 Mar 1636 in Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; was buried on 6 Mar 1636 in Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

From "Klipper Stipendium [Klipper Exhibition]", author unknown, Schriften des Vereins für Sachsen-Meiningische Geschichte u. Landeskunde [Writings of the Saxe-Meiningen Association of History and Geography], 54. Heft [Issue No. 54] (Hildburghausen, Saxe-Meiningen: F. W. Gadow & Sohn, 1906), pages 74, 80, 94.

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Margaretha (cf. Krauß Beitr. I, p. 308 and J. H. Gentzler’s Tab. I, p. 87 u.a.) was the youngest of six children of Conrad "Cuntz" Klipper, "wohl Paul Klippers, B. and Schusters hier Sohn, der 1560 an 1,200 fl. reich war und in Birkenfeld und Häselreith begütert, + vor 1606 (seine Witwe sep. 30. 3. 1614) [probably the son of Paul Klipper, citizen and shoemaker of Hildburghausen, who 1560 was richer by 1,200 florins and owned properties in Birkenfeld and Häselreith, died before 1606 (his widow died 30 March 1614)]". Her birthdate is not known but her two older brothers, Michael and Peter, were born "hierselbst [in this place = Hildburghausen]" in 1558 and 1560, respectively.

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Anastasia was the third of four children of Margaretha Klipper and her first husband, Michael Scheber, "Einspännlger 1572 (1574 von seinen Stiefsöhnen 1. Ehe mit N. Naumann wegen 300 fl. väterlichen Erbgutes gerichtlich belaugt” [hackney driver 1572 (1574 was sued by his stepsons from his first marriage with N. Naumann for 300 florins of his father's inheritance)]”. Margaretha's second husband, Joel Siegler, was the mayor of Hildburghausen and the innkeeper of "Güldenen Engel [Golden Angel]”, who died on 14 Oct 1626 at the age of 80 years. Margaretha died on 6 Mar 1636. Dates of her two marriages are not known. Neither are the birthdates of her children.

Other Events and Attributes:

• FSID: LK4K-SC6
• Occupation: Townsman and Shoemaker

Notes:

From "Klipper Stipendium [Klipper Exhibition]", author unknown, Schriften des Vereins für Sachsen-Meiningische Geschichte u. Landeskunde [Writings of the Saxe-Meiningen Association of History and Geography], 54. Heft [Issue No. 54] (Hildburghausen, Saxe-Meiningen: F. W. Gadow & Sohn, 1906), pages 74, 80, 94.

Page 74:
Margaretha (cf. Krauß Beitr. I, p. 308 and J. H. Gentzler’s Tab. I, p. 87 u.a.) was the youngest of six children of Conrad "Cuntz" Klipper, "wohl Paul Klippers, B. and Schusters hier Sohn, der 1560 an 1,200 fl. reich war und in Birkenfeld und Häselreith begütert, + vor 1606 (seine Witwe sep. 30. 3. 1614) [probably the son of Paul Klipper, citizen and shoemaker of Hildburghausen, who 1560 was richer by 1,200 florins and owned properties in Birkenfeld and Häselreith, died before 1606 (his widow died 30 March 1614)]". Her birthdate is not known but her two older brothers, Michael and Peter, were born "hierselbst [in this place = Hildburghausen]" in 1558 and 1560, respectively.

It is a very long article, and hard to follow, especially in its Gothic type. So I'll give you a brief guide. It begins with the will of the shoemaker Michael Klipper, written on 15 February 1606, and then lists the descendants of his nephews, who inherited his estate of 500 florins. The first of his heirs was Conrad "Kuntz" Klipper of Hildburghausen. He was the great grandfather of Katharina Hartmann Thomä.

Conrad married Schulmacher, N.N. in UNKNOWN in Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany. N.N. was born in UNKNOWN in Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; died on 30 Mar 1614 in Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; was buried after 30 Mar 1614 in Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]