Notes:

From Lemmel:
Sebald Pfinzing N464 - Councilman in Nuremberg
Parents: Pfin-25 / g Berthold Pfinzing Nm64 , Agnes Stromer Nh41

* around 1372, † 1431

Since 1396 alderman in Nuremberg, council of Emperor Sigmunds. On Lichtenhof.

∞1) in 1393 with Elisabeth Mendel N568

(*? 1370/1375)

her parents: Conrad Mendel N545 ( christening : in Nuremberg), (* about? 1345)
See Mend-24 / k ; ∞ with Elisabeth Stromer N567 , (* about? 1350)
See Stro-24 / me .

∞2) 1406 with Apollonia Haller H182

(* about? 1375), † 1416

her parents: Peter Haller H171 , (* about? 1350), † 13.12.1435 in Nuremberg
Zu brick. Leave a fortune of 60,000 florins. See Hall-23 / y ; ∞ with Petronella Kreutzlin H174 , (* about? 1355), † 1388
from Bavaria.

she ∞1) 1394 with Ulrich Muffel Ne80

(* about? 1365), † 4.2.1402

See Mufl-25 / e

∞3) 1412 with Els Stromer N891

* 12.2.1374, † 1424

Betrothed in 1382, ∞ 10.5.1388

her parents: Ulman / Ulrich Stromer N620 , * 6.1.1329 in Nuremberg, † 3.4.1407 at the plague
builder of the first German paper mill. About 1390-1407 he wrote the "Püchel vom miim sex and abentewr". Councilman; Diplomat with Emperor Charles IV and King Wenzel. See Stro-24 / d ( Er ∞1) 1358 with Anna Hegner n978 , (* about? 1338), † 1365 ) ; ∞ 21.11.1366 with Agnes Grolant N888 , * 25.11.1351, † 1413.

she ∞1) 10.5.1388 with Hans Rieter Ne86

(* about? 1370), † 1410

without a son See Ritr-22 / i

Children:
from 1st marriage:
1. Berthold, (* about 1394) - Senator in Nuremberg, see Pfin-27 / f

2. Georg Pfinzing Ne87 , (* 1396), † 1437 In
1424 Bring the Imperial Treasure from Buda to Nuremberg. Without heirs.

∞ 1424 with Dorothea Haller H622

(* about? 1405)

her parents: Andreas Haller H282 , (* about? 1380), † before 1447
four times married rich merchant in Nuremberg. See Hall-24 / q ; ∞2) (about? 1410) with Catharina v.Seckendorf H526 , * 1385.

3. Klara Pfinzing N385 , (* about? 1398)

∞ before 1417 with Franz Pirkheimer N384

* 1387/1388, † 1449

Last clergyman. See Pirk-25 / i

his parents: Hans Pirckhamer N970 , (* about? 1343), † 1400 in Nuremberg
Outstanding merchant. See Pirk-24 / a ( Er ∞1) with Katharina Graser N394 , (* about? 1350) ) ; ∞ with Katharina Teufel N380 , (* about? 1363) ( you ∞2) with Wilhelm Mendel N381 , (* about? 1375), † 24.10.1425 in Nuremberg
councilman in Nuremberg. See Mend-25 / a ) .

4. Ludwig, (* about? 1400) - alderman in Nuremberg, see Pfin-27 / g

from 2nd marriage:
5. Apollonia Pfinzing Ne90 , (* about? 1407)

∞1) 1427 with Peter Stromer N421

* 1401, † 13.4.1431

Died without heirs.

his parents: Jörg Stromeir N817 , * 19.2.1375, † 1437 in Koblenz
1407 he took over the trading company of the father. 1426 in the Carpathian area. 1430 Collapse of the Stromer-Ortlieb company. See Stro-25 / d ( Er ∞2) (about? 1408) with ... Ströber Hd09 , (* about? 1380) ) ; ∞ 1397 with Martha Aislinger N420 , (* about? 1375), † probably around 1407.

∞2) 1433 with M. Haiden H896

(* about? 1400), † 1463

Knight to Dachsbach.

6. Sebald II, (* about? 1410) - on Lichtenhof, see Pfin-27 / h

Regesten:
→ This Sebald Pfinzing is given by Biedermann (Plate 398) as the son of Berthold ∞ Clara Ortlieb . According to Schaper and miracle, he is really a son of Berthold Pfinzing († 1405) ∞ Agnes Stromer .

→ His children can be seen from the following document after his death:

• 5.11.1432: Berchtold, George, Ludwig, Sebolt Pfinzing , Clara the Franz Pirkheymerin , Appollonia of the Peter Stromeirs sel. Wittibe, all siblings and children of the Sebolt Pfinzing certify the letter of misdemeanor of the emperor Sigismund for Sebolt Pfinzing ... (because of offer pfennig of to the Jews)
[StA Nbg Office of the 7-color.Alfabet Urk.839. - Online 2017]

• Sebald I Pfintzing , (Sv Barthold Pfintzing ∞ Klara Ortlieb) , † Tuesday n. St.Georg 1431, Councilor Nuremberg, Council of Emperor Sigismund, took part in 1429 at the Reichstag in Vienna. 3x married.

• ∞1) 1393 Elisabeth Mendel , † 1405, daughter of Konrad Mendel and Elisabeth Stromer v.Reichenbach. ∞2) Haller. ∞3) Stromer.

[Biedermann panel 398]

• Children: Biedermann [Plate 398] names Berthold XI ∞ 1417 Clara Kress from his first marriage ; Georg ∞ 1424 Dorothea Haller ; Clara ∞ 1417 Frantz Pirckamer ; Anna † 1399 ∞ Conrad Pirckamer , he † 1423; Hedwig ∞ Jobst Valzner , he † 1407; Ludwig ∞ 1432 Ursula Waldstromer ; from the second marriage Sebald ∞ 1432 Catharina Groland ; and Apollonia ∞ Stromer / Haiden .

→ Anna ∞ Pirckamer does not fit in time. In terms of age, she could be Sebald's sister. - Even Hedwig ∞ Valzner (he † 1407) does not fit in time. (HDL)

• Sebald Pfinzing (∞ Mendel) , son of Berthold Pfinzing ∞ Agnes Stromer .
[Schaper: Hirschvogel, p.37 footnote 206, Mtlg WvStromer]

• Sebald Pfinzing , son of Berthold ∞ Agnes Stromer .

• 1431: As a royal council, he gave up the Nuremberg citizenship to the indignation of the city, which he soon acquired again. Died shortly thereafter. He was assisted by Emperor Sigmund, Elector Frederick of Brandenburg, Bishop of Agram and the Dukes of Berg and Brunswick.

• A document dated 5.11.1432 mentions his children: Bertold, Jörg, Ludwig and Sebold the Pfinzing , Klara the Franz Pirkheimerin , and Apollonia, Peter Stromeirs Wittib. The descendants of this important branch disappeared in the 17th century in Silesia and Upper Palatinate; the last in Nuremberg, Konrad Pfinzing († 1598), the son of genealogist Sebald, had to leave the city.
[Miracle p.51]

• In 1405 Sebald I Pfinzing receives from King Ruprecht "a hus with the trench and garden" as well as the "Fürreuth" and several goods to Lichtenhof. In 1413 King Sigmund renewed the loan, as well as 1434 for the sons Ludwig and Sebald II
[herrenitze.com/lichtenhof 2012]

• Marriage 1406 Haller .
[Biedermann panel 105 Haller]
• ∞1) Mendel .

• 1407 Sebald Pfinzing with Peter Mendel and Markart Kepf .

• 1420 Venice trade: Sigmund Pfinzing , Bartholomew Zugler , Seitz Austrian , Hans Siegwein , H. Hirßvogel , Hermann Reck .

• 1423 Sebald Pfinzing to King Sigmund for Venedighandels.
[Schaper: Hirschvogel p.19, 37, 47, 48]

• 6.6.1411: Sebold Phinczig among the witnesses of a notary deed of the Clara Monastery.
[StA Nbg Rst.Nbg. Monastery Klara Urk.31. - Online 2017]

• 2.8.1413: Sebald Pfintzing and Peter Volkmeyr , representatives of Nuremberg.
[StA Nbg Losungsamt 7-farb.Alfabet Urk.489. - Online 2017]

• 18.11.1413: Sebolt Pfinczing mentions as a caretaker of the St.Klara monastery in Nuremberg.
[StA Nbg Rst.Nbg. Klara Monastery Urk.40. - Online 2017]

→ The abbess of the monastery is Kathrein Pfinzing . She may be Sebald's sister. (HDL)

• 1417 lend Ulrich Haller the Elder. and Sebald Pfinzing the Nuremberg burgrave Friedrich VI of Zollern 2200 gulden, as this is invested with the Mark Brandenburg.
[W.Schultheiß: Money and Finance Nuremberg Citizens S.80f]
• 1423: The council sends Sebald Pfinzing to King Sigmund , who on 29.9.1423 pledges to bring the crown insignia (crown, orb, scepter, sword, etc.) from Buda Castle to Nuremberg into the custody of the Nuremberg Council.
[Georg Stolz: St.Lorenz Heft 48, 2002, p.9, with illustration]
• 1425: Sebald Pfinzing , Peter Volckamer and Stephan Coler settle a dispute between the monastery Neunkirchen and the heirs Strobel .
[Horst Miekisch, Dissertation on the Augustiner.Chorherrenstift Neunkirchen, Bamberg 2005 p.53, Intenet]

• 1427: King Sigmund confirms the sale of the Nuremberg Castle and gives it to the city of Nuremberg, represented by Sebalt Pfinzing (Ulman Stromers son-in-law).
[L.Sporhan, WvStromer, Handelshaus Stromer, VSWG 47 (1960), p.90f]

→ "Ulman Stromers son-in-law" must refer to the third marriage (HDL).

• 21.4.1429: Kg Sigmund owes 500 florins to Sebold Pfinzing of Nuremberg and prescribes him a share of the Jewish tax.
[StA Nbg Losungsamt 7-farb.Alfabet Urk.759. - Online 2017]

• 25.2.1431: Sigmund declares that Seibold Pfinzing may use the silverware he has lent for 1000 gulden, if he did not redeem it, elsewhere.
[Internet 2015, Regesta Imperii]

Regesta to Apollonia Haller:
[Biedermann panel 105]

Regesta to Anna Hegner:
• Ulmann Stromer , * 1328, ∞1) 1358 with Anna Hegner , Tv Ulrich Hegner . She † 1365, after she had two children born: Ulrich * 1360, † 1361; and Anna * 1364, she ∞ with Sebald Vorchtel .
[Biedermann panel 465B]

• Anna Hegner , † 1365, buried Heilig-Geist-Hospital Nuremberg, ∞ 1358 with Ulman Stromer .
[JAPast: Descendants Hegner, Mtlg 2014]

Regesta to Agnes Grolant:
• She was a self-employed merchant as a widow. Her scribe was imprisoned in 1412 together with the writer of Ulrich Hirschvogel in Bohemia.
[Christa Schaper: "Hirschvogel", Nbger F'gen Bd.18 (1973) p.41]

Regesta to Georg Pfinzing:
[Biedermann panel 398]

• 1423: The Nuremberg Council sends Sebald Pfinzing to King Sigmund , who on 29.9.1423 agrees to bring the crown insignia (crown, orb, scepter, sword, etc.) from Buda Castle to Nuremberg into the custody of the Nuremberg Council.

• Sigmund Stromer and Georg Pfinzing pick up the jewels in Hungary on 8.3.1424 and bring them to Nuremberg, disguised as fish guides.
[Georg Stolz: St.Lorenz Heft 48, 2002, p.9 with illustration]

→ In Buda these crown insignia must have been temporarily in the custody of Sigmund's treasurer Mathias Lemmel (HDL).

• Lehenbuch County Castell 1412-1458: Jörg Pfintzing receives a tenth to Elfershofen (deserted Lengenfeld), previous owner Wilhelm von Rinhofen , then Endres Haller to Nuremberg.
[Internet 2013, Lehenbuch County Castell]

Regesta to Dorothea Haller:
• Georg Pfinzing ∞ 1424 Dorothea Tv Andreas Haller ∞ v.Seckendorf .
[Biedermann plaque 398 Pfinzing]

Regesta to Apollonia Pfinzing:
[Biedermann panel 398, panel 466 Stromer]

• Error note : In Biedermann panel 466 she is given as the daughter of Sebald Pfinzing and (his 3rd wife) Elisabeth Stromer . This is not possible in time. According to Plate 398, she is from the second marriage and bears the name of her mother.

Regesta to Peter Stromer:
[Biedermann panel 466]

• † 13.4.1431.
[L.Sporhan, WvStromer, Handelshaus Stromer, VSWG 47 (1960), p.97]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Senator in Nürnberg

Notes:

From Lemmel:
Berthold Pfinzing N764 - councilman in Nuremberg
Parents: Pfin-23 / w Berchtold Pfinzing N641 , Anna Tucher N643

(* about? 1352), † 1405

Senator in Nuremberg.

∞ (about? 1371) with Klara Ortlieb N901

(* about? 1350)

her parents: Heinrich Ortlieb N902 , (* about? 1310)
See Ortl-23 / h ; ∞ with Klara Schürstab N938 , (* about? 1320)
See Schb-24 / k .

Children:
1. Clara Pfinzing Nm74 , (* about? 1372)

∞ 1392 with Erhard Schürstab N419

(* about? 1364), † 1439

1391 See Schb-25 / i

his father: Leupold Schürstab N416 , (* about? 1325), † after 1378
merchant in Nuremberg with Hungary privileges. 1370/1374 "the older one". See Schb-24 / i ∞1) (about? 1355) with Kunigunde Nützel Nk84 (* about? 1330)
∞2) (about? 1360) with Gerhaus v. Streitberg N939 (* about? 1340), † 8.9.1428

2. Margarete Pfinzing Nm76 , (* about? 1375)

∞ with Lorentz Groland Nn08

(* about? 1370), † 1425

See Grol-22 / s

his parents: Martin Groland Nj15 , (* about? 1315)
1348 Senator in Nuremberg See Grol-21 / g ; ∞2)? (about? 1370) with Margarete Stromer Nn10 , (*? 1350).

3. Agnes Pfinzing Nj10 , (* about? 1380)

∞ (about? 1400) with Hans Groland N912

(* about? 1370), † 1452

in Nuremberg, 1398 Senator. See Grol-23 / e

his parents: Ulrich Groland N896 , (* about? 1330), † 1407
father in law and shareholder of Ulman Stromeir. Councilor Nuremberg, erw. 1361 See Grol-22 / e ( Er ∞2) (about? 1365) with Elisabeth Schopper Na18 , (* about? 1345)
See Sopr-4 / p ) ; ∞ (about? 1350) with Elisabeth Zollner Nh81 , (* about? 1327).

he ∞2) with Ursula Pfinzing Nj16

(* about? 1383)

Regesten:
• Berthold X Pfinzing , Senator Nuremberg, earned a living around the city, ∞ Clara Ortlieb, TvHerrn Heinrich Ortlieb , Senator Nuremberg, ∞ Clara Schürstab . No dates indicated.

• Children: Clara ∞ Schürstab; Margarete ∞ Groland ; Agnes ∞ Groland ; Sebald I ∞ Mendel / Haller / Stromer .

• His parents: Berthold VIII ∞ Anna Tucher .
[Biedermann panel 398]

→ Error note: According to Schaper , the son Sebald I Pfinzing mentioned here can not be classified here; He is a son of Berthold Pfinzing ∞ Agnes Stromer . [Schaper: Hirschvogel, p.37 footnote 208, Mtlg WvStromer]

→ For this Berthold X Pfinzing Biedermann does not specify a year. The three daughters were born about their marriage dates around 1370-1380, so that this Berthold X could have been born about 1345. According to Biedermann, his parents got married in 1352, so that Berthold X must have been born in 1352/53 and married quite young. (HDL)

• Barthold X Pfintzing (Sv. Barthold VIII P. ∞ 1352 Anna Tucher) , alderman in Nuremberg, ∞ Klara Ortlieb , daughter of the Nuremberg alderman Heinrich Ortlieb ∞ Klara Schürstab ; both buried at St.Sebald in Nuremberg. Son: Sebald. [AL Pusch]

• In 1386, Berthold Pfinzing has feasts and Amt Schellenberg of the Bamberg Bishop in pawn ownership.

• In 1398 Berthold Pfinzing receives the Nuremberg Jewish tax.
[W. Schultheiß: Money and Financial Transactions ... p.76,86]

→ Is this this or another Berthold? (HDL)

Regesto to Gerhaus v. Streitberg:
• Tv Friedrich v. Strreitberg ∞ Cunigunde Truchsess of Henneberg and sister of Regensburg Bishop Johann v . Strreitberg .
[Biedermann panel 547A]

Regesta to Margarete Pfinzing:
[Biedermann panel 398]

Berthold married Ortlieb, Klara about 1371 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Klara (daughter of Ortlieb, Heinrich and Schürstab, Klara) was born about 1350 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died in DECEASED in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• FSID: LZ2H-4T7

Notes:

From Lemmel:
Heinrich Ortlieb N902 -
Parents: Ortl-22 / h Heinrich Ortlieb N250 , Agnes Stromer N895

(* about? 1310)

∞ with Klara Schürstab N938

(* about? 1320)

See Schb-24 / k

Daughter:
1. Klara Ortlieb N901 , (* about? 1350)

∞ (about? 1371) with Berthold Pfinzing N764

(* about? 1352), † 1405

Senator in Nuremberg. See Pfin-24 / w

his parents: Berchtold Pfinzing N641 , (* about? 1320), † 11.11.1361 in Nuremberg
councilman and mayor in Nuremberg in Nuremberg on Milchmarkt, first documented in 1356-1361. See Pfin-23 / w ( Er ∞1) 1348 in Nuremberg with Anna Irrer N441 , (* about? 1325), † 1351 in Nuremberg ) ; ∞ 1352 in Nuremberg with Anna Tucher N643 , * around 1330, † 11.11.1410 in Nuremberg
1361 widow of Berchtold Pfinzing ..

Regesten:
• Heinrich Ortlieb ∞ Klara Schürstab , daughter Klara ∞ Berthold Pfintzing .
[AL Pusch]

→ Maybe son of the older Heinrich (= assumption HDL)

Other Events and Attributes:

• Life Event: Between 1356 and 1361, Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; At the Milk Market

Notes:

From Lemmel:
Berchtold Pfinzing N641 - in Nuremberg at the milk market
Parents: Pfin-22 / s Siboto Pfinzing N603 , ... .... N605

(* about? 1315), † 11.11.1361 in Nuremberg

Councilman and mayor in Nuremberg At the Milchmarkt in Nuremberg, first documented mention in 1356-1361.

∞1) 1348 in Nuremberg with Anna Irrer N441

(* about? 1325), † 1351 in Nuremberg

∞2) 1352 in Nuremberg with Anna Tucher N643

* around 1330, † 11.11.1410 in Nuremberg

1361 Widow of Berchtold Pfinzing.

her parents: Bertold Tucher N645 , * 1310 in Nuremberg, † 17.4.1379 in Nuremberg
1340-1379 Member of the Small Council. In 1340 he was the first of the family to join the Inner Council, as a junior mayor. See Tuc-25 / a ( Er ∞2) 1365 with Anna Pfinzing N646 , (* about? 1345), † 12.12.1381 in Nuremberg ) ; ∞ 1330 with Elisabeth v.Maiental N758 , (* about? 1310), † 1364 in Nuremberg
Daughter of the imperial land judge of the Burggrafentum Nuremberg. [Schwemmer p.19] 2 daughters ..

Children:
from 1st marriage:
1. Anna Pfinzing N654 , (* about? 1349)

∞ (about? 1370) with Konrad Groß N045

(* about? 1315), † after 1397

1363-1365 Reichsschultheiß. 1370/80 Hammerherr. Makes 1397 testament. See Gros-24 / e

his parents: Konrad Groß N632 , * around 1280, † 10.5.1356 in Bamberg, 76 years old, buried in Nuremberg
1338-1356 mayor. Hospital founder. See Gros-23 / e ; ∞ (about? 1310) with Agnes Zollner N772 , (* about? 1295), † 13.8.1342
from Bamberg.

he ∞1) (about? 1345) with Anna Haller H244

(* about? 1325), † before 1368

2. Elisabeth Pfinzing N655 , (* about? 1351)

∞ (about? 1382) with Ulrich Stromer N899

(* about? 1340), † 1418

"zur güldenen Rose", councilor in Nuremberg 1380 Senator in Sulzbach (same?) See Stro-24 / b

his parents: Ulrich Stromer / Stromeyr N818 , (* about? 1295), † before 5.1.1380
1340-1380 councilman in Nuremberg. 1358 in Vienna. Ulrich the Elder, filius Wolframi, the golden rose. 1341, 1359 chief of the Stromer Society. See Stro-23 / b ; ∞ with Margarete Prantner N898 , (* about? 1310).

he ∞1) (about? 1368) with Margaretha Reichswirth Na13

(*? 1345)

from 2nd marriage:
3. Berthold, (* about? 1352) - alderman in Nuremberg, see Pfin-24 / w

4. Franz, (* about? 1350) - bailiff and judge in Nuremberg, see Pfin-26 / e

5. Konrad Pfinzing N761 , (* about? 1352), † 1402

∞ with Juliana Grundherr Nh43

(* about? 1353), † 1405

her parents: Michael landlord Na14 , (* about? 1325), † 1388 in Nuremberg
supreme captain Nuremberg See Gru-24 / a ( Er ∞2) with Catharina Schopper Ni50 , (* about? 1348) ) ; ∞ with Juliane Lauffenholz Na15 , (* about? 1330).

6. Mechtild Pfinzing H861 , (* about? 1353)

∞ (about? 1370) in Nuremberg with Paul Mendel N382

(* about? 1335), † 1387 in Nuremberg

in Nuremberg, 1362-1376 and 1382-1387 councilman. See Mend-24 / a

his father: Friedrich Mendel N439 , (* about? 1305), † 29.9.1351 in Nuremberg
∞ with (Katharina?) Langmann . See Mend-23 / a

7. Küngund Pfinzing N651 , (* about? 1355)
It was not called Elisabeth, as stated by Biedermann. [Miracle MVGN 49 p.40]

∞ with Peter Stromer N652

(* about? 1355), † 1402

In Nuremberg. See Stro-25 / ab

his parents: Peter Stromer N653 , * 1292, † 4.12.1388
inventor of the softwood seed. In 1375, Lewpolt Schurstab and Fritz Lemlein testify for him. See Stro-24 / a ( Er ∞1) with Siglint Ebner N776 , (* about? 1310), † 1350 ) ; ∞ (1351) with Margarete Forstmeister N777 , (* about? 1330), † after 1401.

Regesten:
> Summary :

• "Berthold VIII" according to Biedermann, ∞ with Anna Tucher , so confirmed by Wunder. His father is not "Berthold V" (according to Biedermann) but Siboto (according to Wunder). According to Wunder, Anna Tucher is his second wife. The first wife, who is not named at Biedermann, is according to AL Pusch Anna Irrer .

> In detail :

• In Nuremberg on Milchmarkt, first documented mention 1356-1361.

• Berthold Pfinzing († 1361), Tucher's Eidam, has sold his paternal inheritance, namely the courtyard in front of the Frauentor, to his sisters "von beeden gangs" (ie right sister and half-sister), Kunigunde Jakob Weiglin and Agnes Konrad Waldstromerin .

• Before his death in 1361, he named as guardian of his children and as executors of his business (his will):
Mr. Berthold Tucher his Schweher (= father in law, who survived him);
Conrad Waldstromer the boy, his sister (Agnes) son;
Gerhaußen Stromerin his Muhmen (who is that? It lives at this time Franz Stromer ∞2) with Gerhaus Pömer, she † 1362);
Künigundt Weiglin his sister.

• His widow (who died 11.11.1410).
[Wonders p.40]

• A document from 1405 shows that Anna, widow of Bertold Pfinzing , divided her estates into (the sons) Franz and Cuntz Pfinzing and (the grandsons) Steffan Stromer and siblings.

[see at the bottom of the page Pfin.html]

• According to miracle it is in the above certificate Bertold Pfinzing at the milk market ∞ Anna Tucher . The father of Steffan Stromer is Peter Stromer, Ulman's nephew. Peter's wife was called Küngund and not Elisabeth, as stated by Biedermann.

• Bertold Pfinzing at Milchmarkt, his daughters from his first marriage: Anna (∞ Konrad Groß) ; Elisabeth (∞ Ulrich Stromer to g.Rose). - Anna can not have been married to the founder Konrad Groß nor to his son of the same name, because she is younger. At best, she is a late second wife of the younger Konrad.
[Wonders p.41 footnote 49]

→ Anna may really be the second wife of the younger Konrad, whose first wife Anna Haller died before 1368. (HDL)

• Wonder does not specify who Bertold's first wife is. According to AL Pusch, it is Anna Irrer .

• Berthold Pfinzing , councilor and mayor in Nuremberg, † 11.11.1361, ∞1) 1348 in Nuremberg with Anna Irrer , † 1351 in Nuremberg; ∞2) 1352 in Nuremberg with Anna Tucher , † 11.11.1410 in Nuremberg. A daughter from a second marriage: Mechtild ∞ with Paul Mendel.
[AL Pusch, DFA 27 1964]

→ Confusion at Biedermann:

• Berthold VIII Pfinzing , 1345 Senator Nuremberg, † 1361, ∞ Anna Tucher , Tv Berthold Tucher ∞ v.Mayenthal . Children: Elisabeth ∞ Peter Stromer ; Berthold X ∞ Ortlieb .
[Biedermann panel 398]

• A madman (Agnes, not Anna) is stated as the first wife of Berthold V at Biedermann:

• Berthold V Pfinzing , † 1357, ∞1) Agnes Irrer ; ∞2) Cath. v.Lauffenholz, she † 1379.

• Children (not specified from which marriage): Kunegunda ∞ Weigel ; Agnes ∞ forest streamers ; Anna ∞ Tucher ; Albrecht, † young; Seiz ∞ Schürstab , childless; Ulrich † 1399; Berthold VII ∞ Groß / Stromer ; Anna Klosterfrau; Clara nunnery; Berthold VIII ∞ Tucher .
[Biedermann panel 396]

→ Should he really have had two sons named Berthold? (HDL)

→ Comparison with miracles (see above): Year of death is not right, second marriage is wrong, daughters Kunigunde and Agnes right.

• son of Berthold V: Berthold VIII Pfinzing , 1345 Senator Nuremberg, † 1361, ∞ Anna Tucher , children: Elisabeth ∞ Peter Stromer ; Berthold X ∞ Ortlieb. (There is no question of her first marriage to Anna Irrer .)
[Biedermann Tafel 398]

→ The daughter, married to Peter Stromer , is not Elisabeth but Kungund. [Wonder]

Regesta to Anna Irrer:
• Berthold Irrer , 1294 Nuremberg
[A.Scharr: Die anges. Citizen of Nuremberg, in: Gen.Jb. Vol.3 1963 p.17]

→ Probably grandfather of Anna (HDL)

Regesto to Anna Tucher:
• Berthold Pfinzing married in a second marriage in 1352 Anna Tucher , whose father Bertold Tucher married in a second marriage Anna Pfinzing .

• Widow of Berthold Pfinzing (he † 1361), she † 11.11.1410 "at 80 years old".

• 1405: Berthold's Wittib communicates with her mother Anna Pfinzingin with her petits Steffan Stromern and his two siblings and with her brothers Franz Pfinzig the Elder, Elbetbeten Prant's grand daughter his wife, Cunzen Pfinzigen , his wife; Teiligung testifies in 1405 by Seitz and Sebald the Pfinzing and Jakob Grolandt .
[Wonders p.40]

• Berthold Tucher ∞1) Elisabeth v.Mayental , daughter Anna * 1330, † 11.11.1410 as 81-year-old widow, ∞ Berthold Pfinzing , he † 1361.
[Biedermann panel 493]

Regesta to Anna Pfinzing:
• Anna Pfinzing , 2nd wife of Bertold Tucher .

• Your brothers Franz d.Ä. and Conz Pfinzing .

• 1361 Stepmother of the widow Anna Pfinzing born. Tucher .

• 4 sons and 4 daughters.
[Wunder S.40,49] - [Scharr: Waldstromer p.27]

→ If Franz and Conz are their brothers, then their father is Bertold Pfinzing on the wine market.

• Wrong parents at Biedermann:

• Berthold Tucher , † 1379, ∞2) 1365 with Anna Pfinzing , † 1381, Tv Knights Berthold Pfinzing , Bamberger, Palatine and Nuremberg-burggräflicher Council and senator to Nuremberg, ∞ Agnes.

• After Biedermann Anna got 8 children in the Tucher marriage. She must have been so young at the marriage in 1365, so * about 1340/1347. (HDL)

• Anna Pfinzing became the happy tribe mother of all subsequent Tucher .
[Biedermann panel 396]

Regesta to Elisabeth v.Maiental:
• Daughter of the imperial judge of the Burggrafentums Nbg.
[Schwemmer p.19]

→ right sister instead of daughter? see Biedermann

• Sister of Mr. Hilpolt von Mayenthal , Ritter and kaiserl. Land judge of the Burggrafentum Nuremberg.
[Biedermann panel 493]

Regesta to Anna Pfinzing:
• Daughters of Berthold Pfinzing's first marriage on the dairy market: Anna (∞ Konrad Groß) and Elisabeth (∞ Ulrich Stromer zgRose). This Anna can not have been married to the founder Konrad Groß nor his son of the same name, because she is younger. Unless she was a late wife of the younger Konrad.
[Miracle: Pfinzing, p. 41 footnote 49]

→ She may indeed be the second wife of the younger Konrad! (HDL)

Regesta to Anna Haller:
from the first marriage of the father [Bullemer]

Regesten zu Konrad Pfinzing:
• Around 1364: The brothers Konrad and Berthold Pfinzing sell a farm in Altendettelsau to the monastery Heilsbronn.
[M.Keßler, Rittersitz Dettelsau, Diss.2009 S.69ff. - Internet 2014]

• Conrad Pfinzing (Sv Berthold ∞ Great) † 1402. ∞ Juliana Tv Michael Grundherr , Senator and chief captain of Nuremberg, ∞ Juliana v.Laufenholz .

• 4 daughters who lived in 1414: Gerhauß, Elisabeth, Christina, Elß.
[Biedermann panel 397]

Regesten to Juliane Lauffenholz:
• Juliane v.Lauffenholz (Tv Ulrich vL) ∞ Michael Grundherr , daughter Juliane ∞ Conrad Pfinzing .
[Biedermann panel 63 landlord, 397 Pfinzing]

Berchtold married Tucher, Anna in 1352 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Anna (daughter of Tucher, Bertold and von Maiental, Elisabeth) was born about 1330 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died on 11 Nov 1410 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:
Heinrich Ortlieb N902 -
Parents: Ortl-22 / h Heinrich Ortlieb N250 , Agnes Stromer N895

(* about? 1310)

∞ with Klara Schürstab N938

(* about? 1320)

See Schb-24 / k

Daughter:
1. Klara Ortlieb N901 , (* about? 1350)

∞ (about? 1371) with Berthold Pfinzing N764

(* about? 1352), † 1405

Senator in Nuremberg. See Pfin-24 / w

his parents: Berchtold Pfinzing N641 , (* about? 1320), † 11.11.1361 in Nuremberg
councilman and mayor in Nuremberg in Nuremberg on Milchmarkt, first documented in 1356-1361. See Pfin-23 / w ( Er ∞1) 1348 in Nuremberg with Anna Irrer N441 , (* about? 1325), † 1351 in Nuremberg ) ; ∞ 1352 in Nuremberg with Anna Tucher N643 , * around 1330, † 11.11.1410 in Nuremberg
1361 widow of Berchtold Pfinzing ..

Regesten:
• Heinrich Ortlieb ∞ Klara Schürstab , daughter Klara ∞ Berthold Pfintzing .
[AL Pusch]

→ Maybe son of the older Heinrich (= assumption HDL)

Heinrich married Schürstab, Klara in UNKNOWN in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Klara was born about 1320 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died in DECEASED in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:
Klara Schürstab - ∞ Ortlieb
◆ Parents unknown
◆ Born about 1320
◆ ∞ with Heinrich Ortlieb
⁃ He was born about 1310
⁃ Heinrich's father was Heinrich Ortlieb, who was born about 1270, and in 1312 Schöffe in Nuremberg.

Daughter:
1 Klara Ortlieb
⁃ Born about 1350

∞ (about? 1371) with Berthold Pfinzing N764

(* about? 1352), † 1405

See Pfin-24 / w

his parents: Berchtold Pfinzing N641 , (* about? 1315), † 11.11.1361 in Nuremberg
councilman and mayor in Nuremberg in Nuremberg at the milk market, first documented in 1356-1361. See Pfin-23 / w ( Er ∞1) 1348 in Nuremberg with Anna Irrer N441 , (* about? 1325), † 1351 in Nuremberg ) ; ∞ 1352 in Nuremberg with Anna Tucher N643 , (* about? 1331), † 11.11.1410 in Nuremberg
1361 widow of Berchtold Pfinzing ..

Other Events and Attributes:

• FSID: LTYR-T92

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:
Siboto Pfinzing - in Nuremberg
Father: Siboto Pfincinch

(* about? 1255)

1278, 1282, 1288 mentioned. 1317, 1319 Named.

∞1) (about? 1282) with ... Esler N604

(* about? 1260), † 1310

Sister of the mayor Conrad Esler .

her father: Konrad Esler N600 , (* 1215)
documented in 1253 in Bamberg. 1276 with his son Konrad citizen to Bamberg. See Eslr-21 / a

∞2) (about? 1311) with ... .... N605

(* about? 1280)

unknown second wife of Siboto

Children:
from 1st marriage:
1. Konrad, (* about? 1283) - In Nuremberg, mayor, see Pfin-23 / s

2. Hans, (* about? 1285) - in Nuremberg, at Heumarkt, see Pfin-23 / t

3. Michael, (* about? 1288) - in Nuremberg, see Pfin-23 / u

4. Margarete Pfinzing Nk29 , (* about? 1290)

∞ 1310 with Friedrich Behaim N399

* 1285, † 1365

Losunger in Nuremberg. See Beh-23 / a

his parents: Albrecht Behaim N731 , * 6.2.1250, † 6.10.1342 in Nuremberg, 92 years old
merchant in Nuremberg, the spices from Venice moved. Since 1288 in the council, mayor of several times. See Beh-22 / a ; ∞ 1.10.1280 with Ursula Kingfisher N732 , (* about? 1262), † 25.5.1328 in Nuremberg St. Cath ..

5. Agnes Pfinzing N606 , (* about? 1300/1305), † 26.2.1357

∞ (about? 1325) with Konrad Waldstromeyr N607

(* about? 1305), † 5.11.1360

1343-1360 mentioned. See Wstr-24 / a

his parents: Konrad Waldstromer N609 , (* about? 1275), † 28.12.1357
He is first called Stromer . After being loaned to the Nuremberg Forestry Office, he is alternately called Stromer and Waldstromer . "Konrad III". See Wstr-23 / a ; ∞ with Catharina Groß N771 , (* about? 1282), † after 1343
(sister of the mayor Conrad Groß) .

from 2nd marriage:
6. Kunigunde Pfinzing Nn62 , (* about? 1310)

∞ with Jacob Weigel N644

(* about? 1305), † before 1379

1340-1376. See Weig-24 / v

his parents: Stefan Weigel N807 , (* about? 1275), † before 1321
1308, 1311 mentioned. Imperial administrator of the Hofmark Berngau. Reichsgut Eschenau. See Weig-23 / w ; ∞ with Offnay v.Heimburg N808 , (* about? 1285), † after 1352
1321-1352 as a widow ..

7. Berchtold, (* about? 1315) - at the Milchmarkt in Nuremberg, see Pfin-23 / w

Regesten:
• Sibot Pfinzing , 1278 and 1288 (until 1319)

• Son of Sibot

• ∞1) with the sister of the mayor Conrad Esler

• ∞2) with....
[A.Scharr: The ans. Citizen of Nuremberg, in: Gen.Jb. Vol.3 1963 p.14]

• 1278 witnesses: Conrad Schultheiß of Nuremberg, Sifrid Ebner , Cunrad and Sibot Pfinzing , Heinrich Holzschuher .
[Nuremberg Yearbooks Vol. 1-2, 1834, p.55]

• Siboto Phinzing , brother of Konrad, 1278-1288 in the Nuremberg Charterbook .

• Ulman Stromer : A sister of the "good judge" Konrad Esler was married to "Sebot Pfinzing , who was Hansen's father and Michel Pfinzing's father".

• Probably identical to: Siboto Pfinzing , 1317 and 1319 among the named of the Nuremberg Council.

• To Sibotos sons. A sibling (after 1396): Cunrat Pfinczig at the stok, Sulteiss, Hans Pfinczig his brother at the hewmarkt, Michel Pfinczig his brother at the preachers.,

• 16.2.1343: The mayor Konrad Groß calls Cunrad, Hans and Michel Pfinzing (ie Sibotos sons) his Oheime.

• Sebot Pfinzing and the Eslerin have the four siblings as grandchildren: 1) Cunrat, Hans Hainrich, Jakob Waltstromer and brother of the Apt zu Helsbrunn and her sister Franz Forstmeisterin ; 2) Cunrat Pfintzig and his brother Perholt; 3) Markart and Fritz Pfintzig and their brother (Heinrich) zu Babenberg; 4) Sebolt Pfintzig , who has the Vorchtels daughter. These are the around 1385/1387 living relatives of Ulman Stromer .
[Miracle, MVGN 49, pp. 37-39]

→ This Siboto is missing from Biedermann. There in Plate 393 there is a Siboto, which is recorded from 1253, and as its alleged son a Siboto, who died in 1379. The younger one is not a son but the great-grandson of the older one. (HDL)

Regesten zu ... Esler:
[Miracle, MVGN 49 p.38]
Her death 1310 [AL Pusch, DFA 27 1964]

Regesten too ... ....:
• unknown second wife of Siboto [Wunder S.41]

Regesten to Agnes Pfinzing:
→ The parents of this Agnes Pfinzing are wrongly stated at Biedermann:

• Conrad Waldstromer , 1356 founder of the Pilgrim's Hospital, † 5.11.1360, ∞ Agnes Pfinzing , † 26.2.1357, Tv Berthold Pfinzing , knight and imperial council, ∞ Agnes Irrer .
[Biedermann panel 546 Waldstromer]

→ In the Pfinzing table 496 Biedermann indicates that the Agnes Pfinzing daughter of Berthold died in 1357, which is hardly possible in time (HDL).

• Agnes Waldstromer born. Pfinzing is the dam of a children's series, which, according to Ulman Stromer, must be the grandson of Sebot Pfinzing from his first marriage with the esler .
[Miracle: Pfinzing p.39]

→ The Eslerin dies in 1310. She must have been around 35/40 when she got the daughter Agnes around 1300/1305, who then married Konrad Waldstromer . Their children may then have been born approximately in the period 1325/1340. (HDL)

→ Ulman Stromer reports that the children of Agnesoo Waldstromer are grandsons of the Eslerin . Wunder [S.41] says that Agnes must come from the second marriage of Siboto, so that their children, contrary to Ulman Stromer's opinion, can be stepchildren and not grandchildren of the Eslerin . I would like to follow this, because it is quite possible in time, that Agnes is a late daughter of the donkey (HDL).

Regesten to Kunigunde Pfinzing:
• Jakob Weigel s wife Kunigunde is the daughter of Siboto Pfinzing from his first marriage to the sister of the mayor Conrad Esler . Her daughter Clara Weigel ∞ with Georg Ammann .
[Scharr: Waldstromer 52.MVGN 1962/63 p.30]

→ She may have been born about 1305 (HDL).

→ See also Kunigunde Pfinzing (Tv Pfin-24 / e Bertold) ∞ Seifrid Weigel , Weig-25 / g .

Siboto married Pfinzing, N.N. about 1311 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. N.N. was born about 1280 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died in DECEASED in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Commercial Master at the Milk Marker in Nürnberg

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:
Bertold Tucher - councilman in Nuremberg
Parents: Tuc-24 / a Conrad Tucher N759 , Gertraud Holzberger N459

* 1310 in Nuremberg, † 17.4.1379 in Nuremberg

1340-1379 member of the Small Council. In 1340 he was the first of the family to join the Inner Council, as a junior mayor.

∞1) 1330 with Elisabeth v.Maiental N758

(* about? 1310), † 1364 in Nuremberg

Daughter of the imperial land judge Burggrafentums Nuremberg. [Schwemmer p.19] 2 daughters.

∞2) 1365 with Anna Pfinzing N646

(* about? 1345), † 12.12.1381 in Nuremberg

her parents: Berthold Pfinzing N669 , (* about? 1302), † after 1376
in Nuremberg, at the wine market, erw. 1329/1376. See Pfin-24 / e ; ∞ (about? 1340) with Katharina Lauffenholtz N030 , (* about? 1320).

Children:
from 1st marriage:
1. Anna Tucher N643 , * around 1330, † 11.11.1410 in Nuremberg
1361 widow of Berchtold Pfinzing.

∞ 1352 in Nuremberg with Berchtold Pfinzing N641

(* about? 1315), † 11.11.1361 in Nuremberg

Councilman and mayor in Nuremberg At the Milchmarkt in Nuremberg, first documented mention in 1356-1361. See Pfin-23 / w

his parents: Siboto Pfinzing N603 , (*? 1255)
1278, 1282, 1288 mentioned. 1317, 1319 Named. See Pfin-22 / s ( Er ∞1) (about? 1282) with ... Esler N604 , (* about? 1260), † 1310
Sister of the mayor Conrad Esler . ) ; ∞ (about? 1311) with ... .... N605 , (* about? 1280)
unknown second wife of Siboto.

he ∞1) 1348 in Nuremberg with Anna Irrer N441

(* about? 1325), † 1351 in Nuremberg

2. Elisabeth, (* about? 1335) -, see Tuc-

from 2nd marriage:
3. Anna Tucher H760 , * 1366

∞ with Jacob Groland H759

(* about? 1372), † 1419

See Grol-22 / t

his parents: Martin Groland Nj15 , (* about? 1315)
1348 Senator in Nuremberg See Grol-21 / g ; ∞2)? (about? 1370) with Margarete Stromer Nn10 , (*? 1350).

4. Hans, * 1368 - rich merchant in Nuremberg, see Tuc-26 / a

5. Margarete Tucher H175 , * 1372, † 1425

∞ 20.7.1389 with Peter Haller H171

(* about? 1350), † 13.12.1435 in Nuremberg

To brick. Leave a fortune of 60,000 florins. See Hall-23 / y

his parents: Jakob Haller H107 , (* about? 1315), † 10.4.1355 in Nuremberg
See Hall-22 / y ; ∞ around 1350 in Nuremberg with Anna Forstmeister N794 , (* about? 1332)
1351 is her husband Jacob Haller. ( Sie ∞2) after 1355 with Andreas Stromer N797 , (* about? 1330), † 25.8.1393
councilman in Nuremberg. Stepbrother of Peter Stromer. See Stro-24 / e ) .

he ∞1) with Petronella Kreutzlin H174

(* about? 1355), † 1388

from Bavaria

he ∞3) after 1425 with Margarete Rieter H176

(* about? 1395)

6. Klara Tucher Nk16 , * 1374, † 1400

∞ around 1390/1394 with Hans Tetzel Nk12

(* about? 1370), † 16.6.1445

in Nuremberg, senior captain, Losunger, mayor, See Tetz-24 / h

his parents: Jobst Tetzel N304 , * around 1326, † 30.10.1399 in Heidingsfeld
1371-1399 Councilor Nuremberg. Hammerherr in the Upper Palatinate. See Tetz-23 / f ; ∞ with Clara v.Ammerntal Nk10 , (* about? 1335).

he ∞2) around 1403 with Anna Graser Nb09

(* about? 1382)

Regesten:
[Wilhelm Schwemmer: The patronage of the Nuremberg Patrician family Tucher. Mtlgn d.Vereins f.Gesch.d.St.Nürnberg Bd.51 (1962) p.18 ff]
[cf. Scharr: Waldstrom MVGN 52 p.27]

• Berthold Tucher * 1310, ∞1) Elisabeth v.Mayenthal , children 1. Anna ∞ 1352 Berthold Pfinzing , 2. Elisabeth, unmarried; ∞2) 1365 Anna Pfinzing , children: Berthold, young †; Hanß * 1358; Peter young †; Sebald * 1370; Cath, * 1371 ∞ Vorchtel ; Margarete * 1372 ∞ Haller ; Clara * 1374 ∞ Tezel .
[Biedermann Plate 493, 494] Here also more.

• For Schwemmer: ∞ 1330 with Elisabeth v.Maiental ;

• according to AL4383 GWSchmidt: ∞ 1329 with Anna v.Maiental .

• 19.11.1341: Conrad Ebner sold his own property in Zistelgasse to Berthold Tucher .

• 2.9.1342: Berthold Tucher buys a property in Schwarzenbach from Hilpolt of Maiental .
[CityA Nbg online]

• Around 1370: Gylbertus Schreiber asks Ulrich Stromayr to give Rose, Perchtold Haller , Perchtold Tucher , Mr. Pfintzing , and Mr. Albrecht Ebner the elder at the Salt Market to support him in his studies in Padua through books.
[StA Nbg Losungsamt 35 New store Urk.2029. - Online 2017]

• Bertold Tucher married Anna Pfinzing in his second marriage at a
very young age and thus was able to continue his tribe. [Wunder S.40,49] [Biedermann Tafel 493]

• Berthold Tucher had two daughters from his first marriage, of which Anna married Berthold Pfinzing and Elisabeth remained unmarried.

• A hostage Holzberger , sister of Berthold Tucher's mother, was married to a Heinrich Groß / Reichheintz ; In 1352 she donated a pastoral house, which she prescribed to her nephew Berthold Tucher after her death. In 1353 Berthold Tucher took over this task.
[Bullemer: Great p. 147]

• Berthold Tucher , * 1310, † Sunday after Easter 1379 at the plague. 1340-1379 councilman in Nuremberg, 1354 chief captain, 1361 Losunger.

• ∞1) 1330 Elisabeth v.Mayenthal , † 1364.

• ∞2) 1365 Anna Pfinzing.
[B.Aign: AL Zinn, Gen.Jahrbuch Vol.45 / 46 2008]

Regesta to Elisabeth v.Maiental:
• Daughter of the imperial judge of the Burggrafentums Nbg.
[Schwemmer p.19]

→ right sister instead of daughter? see Biedermann

• Sister of Mr. Hilpolt von Mayenthal , Ritter and kaiserl. Land judge of the Burggrafentum Nuremberg.
[Biedermann panel 493]

Regesta to Anna Pfinzing:
• Anna Pfinzing , 2nd wife of Bertold Tucher .

• Your brothers Franz d.Ä. and Conz Pfinzing .

• 1361 Stepmother of the widow Anna Pfinzing born. Tucher .

• 4 sons and 4 daughters.
[Wunder S.40,49] - [Scharr: Waldstromer p.27]

→ If Franz and Conz are their brothers, then their father is Bertold Pfinzing on the wine market.

• Wrong parents at Biedermann:

• Berthold Tucher , † 1379, ∞2) 1365 with Anna Pfinzing , † 1381, Tv Knights Berthold Pfinzing , Bamberger, Palatine and Nuremberg-burggräflicher Council and senator to Nuremberg, ∞ Agnes.

• After Biedermann Anna got 8 children in the Tucher marriage. She must have been so young at the marriage in 1365, so * about 1340/1347. (HDL)

• Anna Pfinzing became the happy tribe mother of all subsequent Tucher .
[Biedermann panel 396]

Regesta to Katharina Lauffenholtz:
• She died in 1379. Daughter of Ulrich v.Lauffenholz to Reichmannsdorf, Upper and Lower Melsendorf.
[Biedermann panel 396 Pfinzing]

• 18.1.1343; Mayor Conrad Groß confirms to Berthold Pfinzing that his wife Katharina, daughter of Ulrich von Laufamholz , has given her husband full control of all his possessions.
[CityA Nbg online]

Regesto to Anna Tucher:
• Berthold Pfinzing married in a second marriage in 1352 Anna Tucher , whose father Bertold Tucher married in a second marriage Anna Pfinzing .

• Widow of Berthold Pfinzing (he † 1361), she † 11.11.1410 "at 80 years old".

• 1405: Berthold's Wittib communicates with her mother Anna Pfinzingin with her petits Steffan Stromern and his two siblings and with her brothers Franz Pfinzig the Elder, Elbetbeten Prant's grand daughter his wife, Cunzen Pfinzigen , his wife; Teiligung testifies in 1405 by Seitz and Sebald the Pfinzing and Jakob Grolandt .
[Wonders p.40]

• Berthold Tucher ∞1) Elisabeth v.Mayental , daughter Anna * 1330, † 11.11.1410 as 81-year-old widow, ∞ Berthold Pfinzing , he † 1361.
[Biedermann panel 493]

Regesta to Anna Irrer:
• Berthold Irrer , 1294 Nuremberg
[A.Scharr: Die anges. Citizen of Nuremberg, in: Gen.Jb. Vol.3 1963 p.17]

→ Probably grandfather of Anna (HDL)

Regesto to Anna Tucher:
[Biedermann panel 493 Tucher, 614 Groland]

Regesta to Margarete Tucher:
[Biedermann panel 105 Haller, 494 Tucher]
→ She died at Biedermann in 1425. However, she must have died before 1400, because her husband remarries at or before 1400.

Bertold married von Maiental, Elisabeth in 1330 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Elisabeth was born about 1310 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died in 1364 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Daughter of the imperial land judge Burggrafentums Nuremberg. [Schwemmer p.19]

Other Events and Attributes:

• FSID: KZJ4-57H
• Life Event: Between 9 Jan 1332 and 8 Jan 1339, Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; City Councilor
• Life Event: Between 9 Jan 1332 and 8 Jan 1339, Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; Ratsmitglied

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:
Heinrich Ortlieb N250 - Schöffe in Nuremberg
Father: Ortl-20 / a ... Ortlieb N251

(* about? 1270), † after 1339

1312 Schöffe in Nuremberg.

∞ with Agnes Stromer N895

(* about? 1280)

her parents: Conrad Stromer N578 , (* about? 1230), † before 20.7.1319
1283-1313 erw. 1291 Schöffe in Nuremberg. In 1313 he buys a meadow near Hersbruck. See Stro-22 / a ( Er ∞2) (about? 1300) with Kunigunde / Anna v.Laufenholz N851 , (* about? 1280) ) ; ∞ (about? 1255) with (Sofie?) Esler N612 , (* about? 1235)
Your first name is not Kunigunde. 11 children ..

she ∞2) after 1343 with Götz Scheffein No95

(* about? 1285) in Eger

Immigrated from Eger to Nuremberg in 1313.

Children:
1. Katharina Ortlieb N786 , (* about? 1305), † after 1366

∞ after 1337 with Philipp Groß N774

(* about? 1290), † after 1355

Council Builder in Nuremberg. Caretaker of paths and footbridges. See Gros-23 / u

his parents: Heinz Groß N630 , (* about? 1250), † zw 1314/1317
In Nuremberg, documented 1276-1306. Death between 1314-1317. See Gros-22 / a ( Er ∞1) (about? 1273) with Sofie v. Vestenberg N631 , (* about? 1250), † about? 1286 ) ; ∞ (about? 1287) with Gisela Esler N629 , (* about? 1265), † after 1339
sister of the mayor Conrad Esler ..

he ∞1) (about? 1320) with Els Pfinzing N785

(* about? 1300), † 8.1.1337

Her parents are unknown.

2. Heinrich, (* about? 1310) -, see Ortl-23 / h

Regesten:
• Heinrich Ortlieb 12.9.1312 Schöffe in Nuremberg.
[A.Scharr: The ans. Citizen of Nuremberg, in: Gen.Jb. Vol.3 1963 p.14]

• 23.7.1339: Emperor Ludwig is sworn by many respected people that there was no court in Leinburg before. The list contains a number of "mannequins", then a long list of "humble mannen," which begins with: Berth. Pfintzing , Wolfel Strömayr , Albr. Ebner , Seytz Pfintzing , Heinr. Charity , Gramliebe Esler , Chunr. Stromayr , Lewpolt of Peunting , Chunr. and Hermann the Hübner von Winkelhard, ... and many others.
[StA Nbg Rst.Nbg., Kaiserl.Privilegien Urk.48. - Online 2017]

• Mrs. Agnes, Mr. Heinrich Ortliebs soul. Widow, had a forestry in Neunhof. This acquires 1344 Ullrich Haller .
[Friday Stadler: Neunhof p.130]

→ Agnes is a daughter of Konrad Stromer ∞ Kunigunde Esler . [different. AL]

• The younger Heinrich is probably his son (= assumption HDL)

Regesta to Agnes Stromer:
• Agnes Stromer , TV Conrad Stromer ∞ Kunigunde Esler , ∞ with Heinrich Ortlieb, he † 1343 ..
[geneage graphics 2015]

• 1350: Her and her husband Götz Scheffein from Eger donated a house to Charles IV, which her son sold to Ulman Stromer in 1368 .
[WvStromer: "Assembly" MVGN 52 p.58]

Regesto to Kunigunde / Anna v.Laufenholz:
• (Kunigunde) v.Laufenholz ∞ with Conrad Stromer , 4 children. She is the sister of Friedrich v.Laufenholz .
[Scharr: Forest Streamers p.35]

• Conrad Stromer ∞2) with Anna v.Laufenholz , 5 children. She is the daughter of Fritz v.Lauffenholz ∞ Anna Eßlerin .
[Biedermann panel 460B Stromer]

Regesten zu (Sofie?) Esler:
• Her first name is given in Biedermann with Kunigunde, which is the first name of Conrad Stromer's second wife.
[Scharr: Forest Streamers p.35]

• At [AL Pusch, DFA 27 1964] their parents are given: Konrad Esler ∞ Anna Pfinzing. - That's wrong for a generation. (HDL)

Regesten zu Götz Scheffein:
• Götz Scheffein immigrated from Eger to Nuremberg in 1313. In 1350 he is one of the main beneficiaries of the extermination of the Jews. Charles IV gives him and his wife Agnes two Jewish houses between Hauptmarkt and Obstmarkt.
[Stromer. The metropolis in the uprising against Charles IV, MVGN 65 1978 p. 67]

Regesta to Katharina Ortlieb:
• † after 1366 [Bullemer: Great]

Regesten zu Els Pfinzing:
• Elisabeth Pfinzing ∞ with Philipp Groß , Sv Heinrich Groß ∞ Ebner .
[Biedermann Plate 392, List of Pfinzing Persons Who Can not Be Arranged]

• Philipp Groß † 1356, ∞1) Els Pfinzing , † 1337 (without further details), many children born about 1320.
[Bullemer: Great]

Heinrich married Stromer, Agnes von Reichenbach in 1317 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Agnes (daughter of Stromer, Conrad von Reichenbach and Esler, Sofie) was born in 1280 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died in 1344 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Birth: 1289, Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany