ap Elisedd, King Brochwel Ysgythrog

Male 692 - 773  (81 years)


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  1. 1.  ap Elisedd, King Brochwel Ysgythrog was born in 692 in Wales (son of ap Gwylog, King Elisedd); died in 773 in Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: LD3L-7RM

    Notes:

    BIO: from British Kings and Queens (Mike Ashley) p 155
    Broachfael ap Elisedd Powys, fl 760s
    The son of Elisedd, little is known of his reign, except hat it would have paralled that of Mercia's greatest king, Offa. Whatever lands Elisedd had gained in the first half of the century, Brochfael probably lost in the second half. Offa undertook many raids into Wales during his reign, some as far west as Dyfed, and Powys was little more than a doorstep to his mighty army. Although the dates of Brochfael's reign are not known, it is possible he reigned for a considerable period. It was during his reign that Offa's Dyke was constructed, a remarkable feat of engineering which must have taken many men many years. It is a sign of Offa's power that it could be achieved at all, and it is probable that it was the men of Powys and of Glywysing who were pressed into service to complete the work. It served as much as a line of demarkation as a defence, and as such shows that Offfa effectively agreed a border between the Welsh and the English would help sustain peace. Brochfael would therefore have benefitted from the Dyke in the short term, though in the long term it spelled the end for Powys. Brochfael was succeeded by his son Cadell.

    Gender:Male
    Birth:circa 715
    Ysgithrog,Brenin,Powys, Wales
    Death:773 (54-62)
    Wales
    Immediate Family:
    Son of Elisedd Ap ap Gwylog
    Husband of N.N. Pabo
    Father of Cadell, King of Powys and Cyngen ap Brochwel
    Brother of St. Enghenedl ab Elisedd and Cyngen ab Elisedd
    Added by:Jon Brees Thogmartin FTDNA Mcclendon on January 2, 2008
    Managed by:Ofir Friedman and 44 others
    Curated by:Erin Spiceland

    MyHeritage Family Trees
    Ellingson Web Site, managed by John Ellingson
    Birth: Circa 715 - Place
    Death: 773 - Place
    Parents: Names of both parents
    Siblings: Enghenedd Verch Elisedd and name of one more sister
    Wife: Name of wife
    Children: Cadell Ap Brochwel and name of one more son

    Family/Spouse: verch Pabo, Queen Arddyn Benasgel. Arddyn was born in 710 in Powys, Wales; died in 746 in Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. ap Brochfael, King Cadell was born in 730 in Deheubarth, Wales; died in 808 in Deheubarth, Wales.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  ap Gwylog, King Elisedd was born in 685 in Ceredigion, Wales; was christened in Powys, Wales (son of ap Beli, King Gwylog and verch Nowy, Sanan); died in 755 in Powys, Wales; was buried in 755 in Llangollen, Denbighshire, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Powys, Wales; King
    • FSID: LD3L-WWN

    Notes:

    Elisedd, King of Powys
    (c.695-773)
    (Latin: Elisetus; English: Ellis)
    Elisedd is best known for his memorial stone: Eliseg's Pillar standing in Llantysilio-yn-Ial in Northern Powys. It was once topped by an enormous cross, and was erected by his great grandson, King Cyngen, some one hundred years after Elisedd's ascendancy in the early 8th century. Its inscription praises his victories against the Saxons and includes an exceptional record of the Powysian pedigree, stretching back through his father King Gwylog ap Beli's line to Vortigern and Magnus Maximus. Elisedd lived at nearby Castell Dinas-Bran, which is also associated with the Celtic ancestor god, Bran, and King Arthur's Quest for the Holy Grail.

    EBK: King Elisedd of Powys. (2017). Earlybritishkingdoms.com. Retrieved 30 May 2017, from http://www.earlybritishkingdoms.com/bios/elisepw.html

    BIO: from British Kings and Queens (Mike Ashsley) p 155
    Elisedd (or Eliseg) Powys, 725-?
    Elisedd was remembered by his great grandson, Cyngen ap Cadell, a century later, for having rebuilt Powys and recovered lands from the English. He erected a stone column, now known as "Eliseg's Pillar" which commemorated his descent, tracing it all the way back to Vortigern. The genealogy provides us with some dating problems, but we must assume that Elisedd lived sometime in the early/mid eighth century. This coincides with the reign of the Mercian king Athelbald, a turbulent period where the Mercians generally had the upper hand but where some victories went to the underdogs. We can image the Elisedd succeeded in regaining lands along the Welsh/Mercian border from this powerful king, which made his victories all the more significant. It is possible the Elisedd ruled (or was active as a battle leader) earlier, because there are Welsh border incidents recorded during the reign of the Merican king Cenred, around the year 708. The fact that the Pillar was erected at Llangollen, well inside the later Welsh border, shows that these territorial gains were not permanent.

    ** from Wikipedia listing for Elisedd ap Gwylog
    Elisedd ap Gwylog (died c. 755), also known as Elise, was king of Powys in eastern Wales.

    Little has been preserved in the historical records about Elisedd, who was a descendant of Brochwel Ysgithrog. He appears to have reclaimed the territory of Powys after it had been overrun by the English. His great-grandson, Cyngen ap Cadell erected a column in his memory which stands not far from the later abbey of Valle Crucis. This is known as the Pillar of Eliseg, but the form Eliseg which appears on the column is thought to be a mistake by the carver of the inscription.

    The Latin inscription on the pillar is now very hard to read, but was apparently clearer in the time of Edward Lhuyd who transcribed it. The translation of the part of the inscription referring to Elisedd is as follows:

    + Concenn son of Catell, Catell son of Brochmail, Brochmail son of Eliseg, Eliseg son of Guoillauc.
    + And that Concenn, great-grandson of Eliseg, erected this stone for his great-grandfather Eliseg.
    + The same Eliseg, who joined together the inheritance of Powys . . . out of the power of the Angles with his sword and with fire.
    + Whosoever repeats the writing, let him give a blessing on the soul of Eliseg.

    Some old poems refer to Elisedd and assert he had a "special crown, a chain of twisted gold links, and armlets and anklets of gold which were the badges of sovereignty of Powys".[1] These artifacts have disappeared from history but perhaps resurfaced briefly during the coronation of Owain Glyndŵr in 1400.

    Elisedd was succeeded by his son Brochfael.

    References
    ^ Pre Welsh History

    John Edward Lloyd (1911) A history of Wales from the earliest times to the Edwardian conquest (Longmans, Green & Co.)

    ** from Wikipedia listing for Pillar of Eliseg
    The Pillar of Eliseg also known as Elise's Pillar or Croes Elisedd in Welsh, stands near Valle Crucis Abbey, Denbighshire, Wales, at grid reference SJ204442. It was erected by Cyngen ap Cadell (died 855), king of Powys in honour of his great-grandfather Elisedd ap Gwylog. The form Eliseg found on the pillar is thought to be a mistake by the carver of the inscription.

    The Latin inscription not only mentions several individuals described in the Historia Britonum, but also complements the information presented in that text. A generally accepted translation of this inscription, one of the longest surviving inscriptions from pre-Viking Wales, is as follows:

    † Concenn son of Cattell, Cattell son of Brochmail, Brochmail son of Eliseg, Eliseg son of Guoillauc.
    † And that Concenn, great-grandson of Eliseg, erected this stone for his great-grandfather Eliseg.
    † The same Eliseg, who joined together the inheritance of Powys . . . throughout nine (years?) out of the power of the Angles with his sword and with fire.
    † Whosoever shall read this hand-inscribed stone, let him give a blessing on the soul of Eliseg.
    † This is that Concenn who captured with his hand eleven hundred acres [4.5 km²] which used to belong to his kingdom of Powys . . . and which . . . . . . the mountain

    [the column is broken here. One line, possibly more, lost]

    . . . the monarchy . . . Maximus . . . of Britain . . . Concenn, Pascent, Maun, Annan.
    † Britu son of Vortigern, whom Germanus blessed, and whom Sevira bore to him, daughter of Maximus the king, who killed the king of the Romans.
    † Conmarch painted this writing at the request of king Concenn.
    † The blessing of the Lord be upon Concenn and upon his entire household, and upon the entire region of Powys until the Day of Judgement.

    The Pillar was thrown down by the Roundheads during the English Civil War and a grave under it opened. Edward Lhuyd examined the Pillar and copied the inscription in 1696. The lower half disappeared but the upper half was re-erected in 1779. The original inscription is now illegible.

    External links
    Rhys, John (1908), All around the Wrekin, "Y Cymmrodor: The magazine of the Honourable Society of Cymmrodorion", Y Cymmrodor (London: Honorable Society of Cymmrodorion) XXI: 1–62 – the pillar and the etymology of "Eliseg" are discussed in this article, which includes Edward Lhuyd's translation.
    Project Eliseg - 2010 Archaeological Excavation of the Pillar and Surrounding area
    On the castlewales website
    "Ancient British Pillar, Valle Crucis Abbey, South Wales", Table-book

    Children:
    1. 1. ap Elisedd, King Brochwel Ysgythrog was born in 692 in Wales; died in 773 in Wales.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  ap Beli, King Gwylog was born in 660 in Powys, Wales (son of ap Eiludd, King Beli and N.N., N.N.); died in 725 in Powys, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Powys, Wales; King
    • FSID: GWTZ-XTT

    Gwylog married verch Nowy, Sanan. Sanan (daughter of ap Arthwyr, King Nowy Hen I and ap Arthwyr, N.N.) was born in 640 in Dyfed, Wales; died in DECEASED in Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  verch Nowy, Sanan was born in 640 in Dyfed, Wales (daughter of ap Arthwyr, King Nowy Hen I and ap Arthwyr, N.N.); died in DECEASED in Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: L1W1-XHQ

    Children:
    1. 2. ap Gwylog, King Elisedd was born in 685 in Ceredigion, Wales; was christened in Powys, Wales; died in 755 in Powys, Wales; was buried in 755 in Llangollen, Denbighshire, Wales.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  ap Eiludd, King Beli was born in 630 in Montgomeryshire, Wales; died in 695 in Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Powys, Wales; King
    • FSID: L23L-QBH

    Notes:

    BIO: from British Kings and Queens (Mike Ashley) 154
    Beli ap Eiludd Powys, fl 630s
    Beli features in the ancestry of Elisedd of Powys, but the ancient genealogy provides us with a confusion over dates. If Belii was genuinely the son of Eiludd, and nephew of Selyf, then he must have lived in the decade or two after the Battle of Chester in 613. This would make him a contemporary with Cadwallon of Cwynedd, and there is little doubt that the rulers of Gwynedd and Powys at this time would have united in their campaign against the Northumbrians. Like Cadwallon, Beli was probably driven into exile by Edwin. However, his son Gwylog married the daughter of Nowy of Dyfed, and Nowy is a generation earlier than Beli, which would place him into at least the 590s if not earlier. This would make it impossible for Beli to be the grandfather of Elisedd who lived around 725. These anomalies are far from being resolved.

    ** from Wikipedia listing for Beli ap Eiludd
    Beli ap Eiludd was a 7th century King of Powys.

    Some theories assert that he was in fact the son of Manwgan ap Selyf who regained power after Eiludd Powys was killed at the battle of Battle of Maes Cogwy in 642.

    The king of Powys in the middle of the 7th was Beli ab Eiludd (around 650?). He was the son of Powys Bowl, and was followed by his son Gwylog ap Beli.

    Beli married N.N., N.N.. N.N. was born in 620 in Wales; died in 640 in Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  N.N., N.N. was born in 620 in Wales; died in 640 in Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: GH91-J6V

    Children:
    1. 4. ap Beli, King Gwylog was born in 660 in Powys, Wales; died in 725 in Powys, Wales.

  3. 10.  ap Arthwyr, King Nowy Hen I was born in 605 in Dyfed, Wales (son of ap Pedr, Arthwyr and ap Pedr, N.N.); died in 650 in Dyfed, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: GMN9-PR3

    Nowy married ap Arthwyr, N.N. in 630 in Breconshire, Wales. N.N. was born in 607 in Dyfed, Wales; died in DECEASED in Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  ap Arthwyr, N.N. was born in 607 in Dyfed, Wales; died in DECEASED in Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: GW7L-F32

    Children:
    1. 5. verch Nowy, Sanan was born in 640 in Dyfed, Wales; died in DECEASED in Wales.