Other Events and Attributes:

• House: House of Brunonen
• FSID: LBMF-CD4

Notes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liutgard_of_Saxony_(died_885)

Family/Spouse: von Schwaben, Burchard I. Burchard was born in 860 in Swabia (Historical), Germany; died on 5 Nov 911 in Swabia (Historical), Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. von Schwaben, Burchard II was born in 883 in Swabia (Historical), Germany; died on 28 Apr 926 in Novara, Piemonte, Italy.

Other Events and Attributes:

• House: House of Liudolfing
• FSID: LC58-L2Q
• Birth: 12 Mar 816, Goslar, Goslar, Niedersachsen, Germany
• Appointments / Titles: Between 844 and 866; Duke of Saxony

Notes:

fmg.ac. (n.d.). SAXONY DUKES. [online] Available at: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#_Toc484586537.

Please read re Liudolf:

The basis of this conjecture is the record mentioned above in which a Liudolf is called a brother of a Cobbo ["Tradidit Bardo comes pro remedio anime Liudulfi familias XVIII in pago Bardengo. ... quidquid ipse Ludolfus habuit in pago Bardengo, ... exceptis seorsum denominatis familiis, quas ipse suo germano Cobboni atque suo propinquo Fresgario ad redimendum reliquerat. Omnia Bardo comes tradidit ... hac ei potestate contradita ab uxore Ludolfi atque a suis propinquis. ... ut predicti Ludolfi uxor ea possedeat usque ad obitum suum, ..." Trad. Corb., 76, B §350 (A §126)]. Some have identified this Liudolf with Liudolf of Saxony, and the brother Cobbo with either the son or grandson of Egbert, resulting in Liudolf being placed as a son or grandson of Egbert. The two variations are discussed in more detail on the page of Liudolf. The principle objection to the identification of this Liudolf (who was deceased at the time of the entry) as Liudolf of Saxony is that the date of the entry has been estimated in the 840's, whereas Liudolf of Saxony died in 866. Thus, it is probable that the Liudolf of the Corvey tradition was a different man from duke Liudolf of Saxony.

fasg.org. (n.d.). Egbert, Saxon count. [online] Available at: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/egber001.htm [Accessed 11 Jun. 2021].

Liudolf's ancestry cannot be determined with certainty. In the biography of the first abbess Hathumod from Gandersheim, a daughter of Liudolf, written around 877, the monk Agius claims that Liudolf comes from the most respected family in Saxony. In her poem Primordia, written in the middle of the 10th century, Hrotsvit von Gandersheim also reports that Liudolf came from “extremely noble” parents, whose names she could not or did not want to mention.

In the biography of the Franconian noblewoman Ida von Herzfeld from around 980, the vita s. Idae of the Werden monk Uffing, Uffing alleges that Liudolf and his son Otto the illustrious did not take care of Ida's grave without saying that they did so would only have been obliged as descendants. [5] In addition, Liudolf buried his son, who died in childhood, there. This burial place was on the Herzfeld farm, which first belonged to Ida's husband Ekbert, then Liudolf and finally Otto the illustrious, until he exchanged it for properties in Beek near Duisburg. Albert K. Hömberg therefore came to the conclusion that Liudolf was the grandson of Ida and Ekbert. [6] In fact, Ida's son Cobbo, like Liudolf a close confidante of Ludwig the German, had a son named Liudolf from his marriage to Eila

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Liudolfs Abstammung ist nicht sicher zu bestimmen.[1] In der um 877 verfassten Lebensbeschreibung der ersten Gandersheimer Äbtissin Hathumod, einer Tochter Liudolfs, behauptet der Mönch Agius, Liudolf entstamme dem angesehensten Geschlecht in Sachsen.[2] Auch Hrotsvit von Gandersheim berichtet in ihrem Mitte des 10. Jahrhunderts entstandenen Gedicht Primordia,[3] Liudolf stamme von „überaus adligen“ Eltern ab, deren Namen sie jedoch nicht erwähnen konnte oder wollte.[4]

In der um 980 entstandenen Lebensbeschreibung der fränkischen Adligen Ida von Herzfeld, der Vita s. Idae des Werdener Mönches Uffing, erhebt dieser den Vorwurf, Liudolf und sein Sohn Otto der Erlauchte hätten sich nicht um das Grab Idas gekümmert, ohne auszusprechen, dass sie dazu nur als Abkömmlinge verpflichtet gewesen wären.[5] Zudem habe Liudolf seinen im Kindesalter verstorbenen Sohn dort beigesetzt. Diese Grablege befand sich auf dem Hof Herzfeld, der zunächst Idas Mann Ekbert, dann Liudolf und schließlich Otto dem Erlauchten gehörte, bis dieser ihn gegen Besitzungen in Beek bei Duisburg eintauschte. Albert K. Hömberg gelangte deshalb zu dem Ergebnis, Liudolf sei der Enkel Idas und Ekberts.[6] Tatsächlich hatte Idas Sohn Cobbo, wie Liudolf ein enger Vertrauter Ludwig des Deutschen, aus seiner Ehe mit Eila einen Sohn namens Liudolf.

de.zxc.wiki. (n.d.). Liudolf (Saxony) - zxc.wiki. [online] Available at: https://de.zxc.wiki/wiki/Liudolf_(Sachsen). Less

Addiionally:

However, as Hlawitschka has noted, the assumption that Liudolf was an heir of Egbert probably reads too much into the statements of the Life of St. Ida [Hlawitschka (1974), 156-9]. This source does not actually state that Liudolf held Herzfeld, only that he buried a son there. When it states that duke Otto was awarded Herzfeld by law, this was presumably after 880 (when Otto became duke), and therefore many years after the hereditary succession of unknown individuals to Egbert and Ida mentioned earlier. The Liudolfinger were from eastern Saxony, while Herzfeld is in Westfalen. Also, the fact that Otto II sold Herzfeld does not suggest that it was land long in hereditary possession of his family.

fasg.org. (n.d.). Egbert, Saxon count. [online] Available at: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/egber001.htm [Accessed 11 Jun. 2021].

Liudolf married Billung, Oda in 834 in Sachsen, Germany. Oda (daughter of Billung and of Italy, Aeda) was born in 818 in Stammen, Kassel, Hessen, Germany; died on 17 May 913 in Niedersachsen, Germany; was buried after 17 May 913 in Brunshausen, Stade, Niedersachsen, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Appointments / Titles: Sachsen, Germany; Duchess
• FSID: LC58-LGY

Notes:

"About 830 Liudolf married Oda, daughter of Billung and Aeda."

--> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liudolf,_Duke_of_Saxony#Life

"About 830 Liudolf married Oda, daughter of Billung and Aeda."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liudolf,_Duke_of_Saxony#Life

Granddaughter of Charlemagne: (dutch) Liudolf was married to Oda (ca. 806 - 17 May 913), daughter of the princeps of Billung (Billungers) and Aeda, daughter of Pepin of Italy and thus granddaughter of Charlemagne. Oda founded the monastery of Calbe an der Milde in 885 and lived to be more than 100 years old. Liudolf and Oda had twelve children. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liudolf_van_Saxony

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Other Events and Attributes:

• FSID: GD8P-VFC

Billung married of Italy, Aeda. Aeda (daughter of of Italy, Pippin) was born in 801 in Italy; died in DECEASED in Milan, Milano, Lombardia, Italy. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• FSID: GHFR-GK6

Notes:

Granddaughter of Charlemagne: (dutch) Liudolf was married to Oda (ca. 806 - 17 May 913), daughter of the princeps of Billung (Billungers) and Aeda, daughter of Pepin of Italy and thus granddaughter of Charlemagne. Oda founded the monastery of Calbe an der Milde in 885 and lived to be more than 100 years old. Liudolf and Oda had twelve children. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liudolf_van_Saxony

Other Events and Attributes:

• FSID: L8PY-4HG
• Life Event: Between 781 and 810; King of Lombardy & Italy
• Appointments / Titles: 15 Apr 781; King of Italy
• Appointments / Titles: 25 Dec 800; Crowned King of the Franks at Rome

Notes:

Pippin König von Italien
Children ( Mistress or wife? )

1. BERNARD ([797]-Milan 17 Aug 818, bur Milan, San Ambrosio). Thegan's Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names "Bernhardus filius Pippini ex concubina"[627]. He was confirmed 11 Sep 813 at Aix-la-Chapelle as BERNARD I King of Italy.

Einhard, who names these daughters, makes no mention of whether they were legitimate or not. If they were illegitimate, it is not known whether they were full sisters of Bernard.

2. ADELAIS ([798]-after 810). "Adailhaidem, Atulam, Guntradam, Berthaidem ac Theoderadam" a

3.ADULA ([800/810]-after 810).

4. GUNTRADA ([800/810]-after 810).

5. BERTAIDE ([800/810]-after 810).

6.THEODRADA ([800/810]-after 810). "

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ITALY,%20Kings%20to%20962.htm#PepinIItalyB

Pépin d'Italie1, né en 777, mort à Milan le 8 juillet 810, est un des fils de Charlemagne, roi d'Italie de 781 à 810.

Il est le troisième fils de Charlemagne et le second d'Hildegarde de Vintzgau. Il est baptisé par le pape Adrien Ier avec le prénom de Carloman.

En 781, Charlemagne, roi des Lombards (rex Langobardorum) depuis 774, décide de faire de Carloman un « roi d'Italie » et de Louis, né en 778, un « roi d'Aquitaine ». Tous deux sont couronnés par le pape à Rome le 15 avril 781. C'est à cette occasion que Charlemagne décide de donner à Carloman le nom de Pépin ; dans la nomenclature, il est appelé Pépin Ier d'Italie, Charlemagne conservant le titre de roi des Lombards.

En raison de son jeune âge, Carloman est placé sous la tutelle d'Adalhard, abbé de Corbie, cousin de Charlemagne ; par la suite, ses tuteurs seront Waldo de Reichenau et Rotchild2.

En 787, bien qu'âgé de 10 ans, Pépin participe à une campagne militaire contre le duc Tassilon de Bavière. Charlemagne mêne lui-même une petite armée sur Augsbourg et débouche en Alémanie. Une autre vient du nord, composée d’Austrasiens, Saxons et Thuringiens. Pépin monte par la vallée de l'Adige à la tête d’une troisième armée. Menacé par des forces supérieures, Tassilon se rend sans combattre.

En 793, Pépin d'Italie mène une campagne contre le duc de Bénévent Grimoald, petit-fils du dernier roi lombard, Didier, qui refuse de se soumettre à son autorité.

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Translated:

Pepin of Italy

Pepin of Italy1, born in 777, died in Milan on July 8, 810, was one of the sons of Charlemagne, king of Italy from 781 to 810.

He was the third son of Charlemagne and the second of Hildegard of Vintzgau. He was baptized by Pope Adrian I with the name Carloman.

In 781, Charlemagne, king of the Lombards (rex Langobardorum) since 774, decided to make Carloman a "king of Italy" and Louis, born in 778, a "king of Aquitaine. Both were crowned by the pope in Rome on April 15, 781, at which time Charlemagne decided to give Carloman the name of Pepin; in the nomenclature, he was called Pepin I of Italy, with Charlemagne retaining the title of king of the Lombards.

Because of his young age, Carloman was placed under the guardianship of Adalhard, abbot of Corbie, cousin of Charlemagne; later, his guardians would be Waldo of Reichenau and Rotchild2.

In 787, although he was ten years old, Pepin took part in a military campaign against Duke Tassilon of Bavaria. Charlemagne himself led a small army to Augsburg and into Alemania. Another army came from the north, composed of Austrasians, Saxons and Thuringians. Pepin went up through the Adige valley at the head of a third army. Threatened by superior forces, Tassilon surrendered without fighting.

In 793, Pepin of Italy led a campaign against the duke of Benevento Grimoald, grandson of the last Lombard king, Didier, who refused to submit to his authority.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A9pin_d%27Italie