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• Life Event: Between 1630 and 1667, Hoheneiche, Saalfeld-Rudolstadt, Thüringen, Germany; Lutheran Pastor

Sebastian married Reinmann, Anna on 19 Jun 1634 in Hoheneiche, Saalfeld-Rudolstadt, Thüringen, Germany. Anna was born in UNKNOWN; died in DECEASED. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Education: 1564, University of Jena, Jena, Jena, Thüringen, Germany
• Life Event: Between 1565 and 1568, Krölpa, Saale-Orla-Kreis, Thüringen, Germany; Lutheran Deacon
• Life Event: Between 1568 and 1570, Probstzella, Saalfeld-Rudolstadt, Thüringen, Germany; Lutheran Deacon
• Life Event: Between 1570 and 1573, Gehren, Ilm-Kreis, Thüringen, Germany; Lutheran Pastor
• Life Event: Between 1573 and 1592, Graba, Saalfeld-Rudolstadt, Thüringen, Germany; Lutheran Pastor
• Life Event: 1592, Krölpa, Saale-Orla-Kreis, Thüringen, Germany; Lutheran Pastor
• Life Event: Between 1618 and 1620, Krölpa, Saale-Orla-Kreis, Thüringen, Germany; Lutheran Pastor and Archdeacon to Saalfeld

Notes:

If I could figure out the abbreviation for the month, we may get the complete date of their marriage.  The whole inscription is hard to decipher but here’s my first impression — “The honorable Herr Andreas Reynman pastor — of Graba himself with the — Maiden [ Jungfrau ] Sabina Trÿllerin. [ the daughter of ] Samuel Trÿller shoemaker [ Schuster ] of Saalfeld . . . ”  It looks like the couple got married one Tuesday [ Dienstag ] at a place called “Salwalde”.   That would be Saalwald — “Saal Forest”.  I looked for it on the old maps — well, as you know, Graba is north of the walled city of Saalfeld, both on the same side of the Saal River, and the Saalwald is all around both places in the west, the south and the southeast, as you’ll see from the 2021 map from Mindat.org, so, maybe, the couple got married in the forest, and not in Saalfeld.

They were married on 18 May 1585, which under the Julian calendar would have been a Tuesday.  As to the place, a forest.  Now I agree that I could make that read Saalwald, but a forest?  If this was during the 30 years was with Lutheran pastors dying, I can believe they got married in a forest.  But in1585?

That’s why I was thinking that Saalwald might be the name of either a farm or an estate but it’s so hard to find it in the old maps of the Saalfeld area.

Andreas married Tryller, Sabina on 18 May 1585 in Graba, Saalfeld-Rudolstadt, Thüringen, Germany. Sabina (daughter of Tryller, Sebastian and Schade, Cordula) was born on 1 Apr 1565 in Saalfeld, Saalfeld-Rudolstadt, Thüringen, Germany; died in 1640 in Saalfeld, Saalfeld-Rudolstadt, Thüringen, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• FSID: L219-NGQ

Other Events and Attributes:

• FSID: LRF4-JXQ
• Occupation: Master maker of leather purses and gloves

Notes:

From Chip Kalb
01 = Urban Schmidt
02 = Georg Schmidt, alias Triller, charcoal burner of Grünhain, Saxony, 1455, and “Der Prinzenretter” = Maria Wälder
03 = George Triller, Pülvermacher [ powder maker ], moved to Freyberg ( now Freiberg, District of Mittlelsachsen, Saxony, Germany ), the center of ore mining for centuries, in the Electorate of Saxony and had two sons — Burchard Triller, the Pülvermacher [ powder maker ] who stayed in Freyberg and became the ancestor of Dr Daniel Wilhelm Triller of Usingen, Hesse, and Peter Triller, who left for Torgau.  When Princes Ernst and Albrecht divided their father’s lands in 1485, Freiberg went with the Duchy of Saxony to Albrecht.  But Grünhain, Graba, Saafeld  and Torgau, along with Coburg, Hildburghausen, Frohnlach and Sonnefeld, all went with the Electorate of Saxony to Ernst.  Torgau itself became the principal residence of Ernst’s two sons, Frederick the Wise and John the Steadfast, and John’s son, John Frederick the Maganimous.  It was also the epicenter of the Reformation.  Of it, Martin Luther wrote, “Wittenberg ist die Mutter, Torgau die Amme der Reformation [ Wittenberg is the mother, Torgau the wet-nurse of the Reformation ]”

THE TORGAU BRANCH
04 = Peter Triller ( 1482 – 1512 ) of Torgau = Anna Gotthard
05 = Justus Triller, the youngest son, moved from Torgau to Saalfeld, where he became a Bürger [ citizen ] in 1504, and had twelve daughters and two sons — Simon Tryller, who founded the Saalfeld branch, and Rev. Caspar Tryller ( 1497 – 1561 ), the first Evangelical Lutheran pastor of Graba, who founded the Graba branch

THE SAALFELD BRANCH
06 = Simon Tryller ( 1496, Saalfeld – 14 Dec 1576, Saalfeld ), Beutlermeister [ master maker of leather purses and gloves ] = ( 1 ) Katharina Gärtner ( + 25 Oct 1566, Saalfeld ), daughter of Matthias Gärtner the Rathsherr [ City Councilor ] of Saalfeld, 11 children ( eight boys, three girls )
07 = Sebastian Tryller ( 1524, Saalfeld – 1 Nov 1574, Saalfeld ), the fourth son = 21 Oct 1549, Saalfeld, Cordula Schaden ( + 3 Dec 1578, Saalfeld ), the daughter of Hans Schaden the Kastner [ landlord’s administrator, or beady-eyed bean-counter ] from Eisfeld in Thuringen, 11 children ( five boys, six girls ), the eldest of which was
08 = Samuel Tryller ( 22 Sep 1550, Saalfeld – 28 Feb 1608, Saalfeld ), merchant, the Rathsherr [ City Councilor ] and later Rathskämmerer [ City Chamberlain ] of Saalfeld
09 = Sabina Tryller ( * 1 Apr 1565, Saalfeld ) = 1685, Rev Andreas Reinmann, the fourth Evangelical Lutheran pastor of Graba

Sabina’s marriage record states that she was the daughter of Samuel Tryller the shoemaker ( Schuster ) of Saalfeld but the only Samuel Tryller I could find at Geneanet was Samuel Tryller ( 1550 – 1608 ), the Kaufmann [ merchant ] of Saalfeld.  This Samuel is supposed to have married twice, both times in Saalfeld — to Ottilie Winzterlein, who died without issue, and, in 1583, Judith Müller, the daughter of Nicolaus Müller.  She bore him six children — two boys and four girls — but none of them was Sabina.  Compared to Judith, there’s nothing about Ottilie.  But I note that Samuel the merchant was 15 years old when Sabina was born.  Maybe he had a scandalous fling with Ottilie but she died in childbirth and their baby was adopted as Sebastian’s daughter to keep her biological father’s secret.

But there may be two different Tryller families in the same town. The first Evangelical Lutheran Deacon of Graba was Sebastian Tryller but he got the job in 1520 — four years before the other Sebastian was born in nearby Saalfeld.  Perhaps the Deacon was Peter’s son.  He’s not in the tables and Geneanet but Peter did live in Torgau, the epicenter of the Reformation.  So I gotta read through the Triller-Sagen, which covers your Tryllers on pages 15 – 18, and “Der Prinzenraub und die Familie Triller” to be sure.

Sebastian married Schade, Cordula on 21 Oct 1549 in Saalfeld, Saalfeld-Rudolstadt, Thüringen, Germany. Cordula (daughter of Schaden, Hans) was born in UNKNOWN in Thüringen, Germany; died on 3 Dec 1578 in Saalfeld, Saalfeld-Rudolstadt, Thüringen, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• FSID: LRF8-WVQ

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• FSID: LRF4-GH2
• Occupation: Master maker of leather purses and gloves
• Death: 14 Apr 1576, Saalfeld, Saalfeld-Rudolstadt, Thüringen, Germany

Notes:

From Chip Kalb
01 = Urban Schmidt
02 = Georg Schmidt, alias Triller, charcoal burner of Grünhain, Saxony, 1455, and “Der Prinzenretter” = Maria Wälder
03 = George Triller, Pülvermacher [ powder maker ], moved to Freyberg ( now Freiberg, District of Mittlelsachsen, Saxony, Germany ), the center of ore mining for centuries, in the Electorate of Saxony and had two sons — Burchard Triller, the Pülvermacher [ powder maker ] who stayed in Freyberg and became the ancestor of Dr Daniel Wilhelm Triller of Usingen, Hesse, and Peter Triller, who left for Torgau.  When Princes Ernst and Albrecht divided their father’s lands in 1485, Freiberg went with the Duchy of Saxony to Albrecht.  But Grünhain, Graba, Saafeld  and Torgau, along with Coburg, Hildburghausen, Frohnlach and Sonnefeld, all went with the Electorate of Saxony to Ernst.  Torgau itself became the principal residence of Ernst’s two sons, Frederick the Wise and John the Steadfast, and John’s son, John Frederick the Maganimous.  It was also the epicenter of the Reformation.  Of it, Martin Luther wrote, “Wittenberg ist die Mutter, Torgau die Amme der Reformation [ Wittenberg is the mother, Torgau the wet-nurse of the Reformation ]”

THE TORGAU BRANCH
04 = Peter Triller ( 1482 – 1512 ) of Torgau = Anna Gotthard
05 = Justus Triller, the youngest son, moved from Torgau to Saalfeld, where he became a Bürger [ citizen ] in 1504, and had twelve daughters and two sons — Simon Tryller, who founded the Saalfeld branch, and Rev. Caspar Tryller ( 1497 – 1561 ), the first Evangelical Lutheran pastor of Graba, who founded the Graba branch

THE SAALFELD BRANCH
06 = Simon Tryller ( 1496, Saalfeld – 14 Dec 1576, Saalfeld ), Beutlermeister [ master maker of leather purses and gloves ] = ( 1 ) Katharina Gärtner ( + 25 Oct 1566, Saalfeld ), daughter of Matthias Gärtner the Rathsherr [ City Councilor ] of Saalfeld, 11 children ( eight boys, three girls )
07 = Sebastian Tryller ( 1524, Saalfeld – 1 Nov 1574, Saalfeld ), the fourth son = 21 Oct 1549, Saalfeld, Cordula Schaden ( + 3 Dec 1578, Saalfeld ), the daughter of Hans Schaden the Kastner [ landlord’s administrator, or beady-eyed bean-counter ] from Eisfeld in Thuringen, 11 children ( five boys, six girls ), the eldest of which was
08 = Samuel Tryller ( 22 Sep 1550, Saalfeld – 28 Feb 1608, Saalfeld ), merchant, the Rathsherr [ City Councilor ] and later Rathskämmerer [ City Chamberlain ] of Saalfeld
09 = Sabina Tryller ( * 1 Apr 1565, Saalfeld ) = 1685, Rev Andreas Reinmann, the fourth Evangelical Lutheran pastor of Graba

Sabina’s marriage record states that she was the daughter of Samuel Tryller the shoemaker ( Schuster ) of Saalfeld but the only Samuel Tryller I could find at Geneanet was Samuel Tryller ( 1550 – 1608 ), the Kaufmann [ merchant ] of Saalfeld.  This Samuel is supposed to have married twice, both times in Saalfeld — to Ottilie Winzterlein, who died without issue, and, in 1583, Judith Müller, the daughter of Nicolaus Müller.  She bore him six children — two boys and four girls — but none of them was Sabina.  Compared to Judith, there’s nothing about Ottilie.  But I note that Samuel the merchant was 15 years old when Sabina was born.  Maybe he had a scandalous fling with Ottilie but she died in childbirth and their baby was adopted as Sebastian’s daughter to keep her biological father’s secret.

But there may be two different Tryller families in the same town. The first Evangelical Lutheran Deacon of Graba was Sebastian Tryller but he got the job in 1520 — four years before the other Sebastian was born in nearby Saalfeld.  Perhaps the Deacon was Peter’s son.  He’s not in the tables and Geneanet but Peter did live in Torgau, the epicenter of the Reformation.  So I gotta read through the Triller-Sagen, which covers your Tryllers on pages 15 – 18, and “Der Prinzenraub und die Familie Triller” to be sure.

Simon married Gartner, Katharina. Katharina (daughter of Gartner, Matthias) was born in UNKNOWN in Germany; died on 25 Oct 1566 in Saalfeld, Saalfeld-Rudolstadt, Thüringen, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• FSID: LRF4-KJ9