Scheber, Helene

1656 - 1661  (~ 4 years)

• Name	Scheber, Helene  [1]
  Birth	UNKNOWN	Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany
  Christening	23 Feb 1656	Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany
  Gender	Female
  Death	1661	Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany
  Person ID	I24220	The Thoma Family
  Last Modified	20 Sep 2023

  
  

  Father	Scheber, Michael,   b. UNKNOWN, Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany d. Bef 21 Oct 1606, Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany
  Relationship	natural
  Mother	Klipper, Margaretha,   b. UNKNOWN, Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany d. Bef 6 Mar 1636, Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany
  Relationship	natural
  Marriage	1572	Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany   [1]
  Family ID	F3861	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family ID	F11384	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	20 Sep 2023

  
  

• Event Map

  Birth - UNKNOWN - Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany Christening - 23 Feb 1656 - Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany Death - 1661 - Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany  = Link to Google Earth

  
  

• Notes

  Something is wrong with this lineage. The Klipper scholarship states that she died in 1661; which is consistent with the birth and deaths of her siblings. But it is inconsistent with her being born on 24 Feb 1623, dying on 1661, then again on 07 May 1723. The Klipper scholarship has the lineage of Helene marrying Pancraz Stephen Arnold to Margaretha Dorothea Arnold marrying Hans Georg Bau to Margaretha Helen Bau marrying Johann Georg Gehring [Göhring, Goehring) to Johanna Ernesting Göhring marrying Johann Michael Rückert. The crux of the split is the parentage of Helene Scheber which in some places is given as Helene Seber. Helene Seber's father is Stephen Seber while Helene Scheber's father is Michael Scheber. The two lineages whom both claim Johann Michael Rückert as an ancestor just do not come together properly. The dates for Helen Seber are very convincing but I trust the Klipper scholarship as it was put together by people living at the time of.

  
  

• Sources

  [S24] GERMANY: THÜRINGIA: Schriften des Vereins fur Sachsen Meiningische Geschichte und Landeskunde 54th issue (1906). Google Books Issue 54, Hildburghausen, Saxe-Meiningen: F. W. Gadow & Sohn 1906 https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015055036332;view=1up;seq=111 Schriften des Vereins für Sachsen Meiningische Geschichte und Landeskunde 54th issue (1906) Klipper Family Tree