Plantagenet, Princess Joan

Female 1188 - 1237  (48 years)


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  • Name Plantagenet, Joan  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11
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    Title Princess 
    Birth 29 Jul 1188  Coucy, Ardennes, Champagne-Ardenne, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14
    Gender Female 
    Appointments / Titles Princess of England 
    Appointments / Titles Princess of Wales 
    FSID 9HFS-GG1 
    Death 2 Feb 1237  Aberconwy Abbey, Conwy, Caernarvonshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14
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    Burial Aft 2 Feb 1237  Llanfaes, Anglesey, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11
    Person ID I25559  The Thoma Family
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2023 

    Father Plantagenet, King John Lackland of England,   b. 31 Dec 1166, Kings Manor House (Historical), Oxford, Oxfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 18 Oct 1216, Newark Castle, Newark-on-Trent, Nottinghamshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 49 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother de Ferrers, Agatha,   b. 1168, Stowe-by-Chartley, Staffordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1189, Chinon, Indre-et-Loire, Centre, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 21 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Family ID F9773  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family ap Iorwerth, Prince Llewelyn,   b. 1173, Aberffraw Castle, Aberffraw, Anglesey, Wales Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 18 Apr 1240, Aberconwy Abbey, Conwy, Caernarvonshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 67 years) 
    Marriage 23 Apr 1205  England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11
    Children 
     1. verch Llewelyn, Gwladys,   b. 1194, Gwynedd, Wales Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1251, Windsor, Berkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 57 years)  [natural]
    Family ID F9366  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2023 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 29 Jul 1188 - Coucy, Ardennes, Champagne-Ardenne, France Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - 23 Apr 1205 - England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - 2 Feb 1237 - Aberconwy Abbey, Conwy, Caernarvonshire, Wales Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBurial - Aft 2 Feb 1237 - Llanfaes, Anglesey, Wales Link to Google Earth
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  • Documents
    PLANTAGENET, Joan.pdf
    PLANTAGENET, Joan.pdf

  • Notes 
    • Joan, Lady of Wales
      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Joan of Wales
      Eglwys y Santes Fair, Biwmares, Ynys Mon, Church of St Mary and St Nicholas, Beaumaris, North Wales 61.jpg
      Detail of Joan's sarcophagus in St Mary's and St Nicholas's Church, Beaumaris
      Born c. 1191
      Died 2 February 1237 (aged 45–46)
      Spouse Llywelyn the Great
      House Plantagenet
      Father John of England
      Mother Clemence
      Joan, Lady of Wales and Lady of Snowdon, also known by her Welsh name of Siwan, (c. 1191 – 2 February 1237) was the wife of Llywelyn the Great, Prince of Wales and Gwynedd, effective ruler of most of Wales.

      Early life[edit]
      Joan was a natural daughter of King John of England. She should not be confused with her half-sister, Joan, Queen consort of Scotland.

      Little is known about her early life. Her mother's name is known only from Joan's obituary in the Tewkesbury Annals, where she is called "Regina Clementina" (Queen Clemence); there is no evidence that her mother was in fact of royal blood. Joan may have been born in France, and probably spent part of her childhood there, as King John had her brought to the Kingdom of England from Normandy in December 1203 in preparation for her wedding to prince Llywelyn ab Iorwerth.

      Thomas Pennant, in "Tours in Wales", Volume 2, published London, 1810, writes : "It is said that Llewelyn the Great had near this place [Trefriw] a palace; ... The church of Trefriw was originally built by Llewelyn, for the ease of his princess, who before was obliged to go on foot to Llanrhychwyn, a long walk among the mountains."

      Marriage[edit]
      Joan married Llywelyn the Great between December 1203 and October 1204. The wedding was celebrated at St Werburgh's Abbey in Chester. She and Llywelyn had at least two children together:

      Elen ferch Llywelyn (Helen or Ellen) (1207–1253), married (1) John the Scot, Earl of Chester and (2) Robert II de Quincy
      Dafydd ap Llywelyn (c. 1212–1246) married Isabella de Braose, died at Abergwyngregyn.
      Some of Llywelyn's other recorded children may also have been Joan's:

      Gwladus Ddu (1206–1251), married (1) Reginald de Braose and (2) Ralph de Mortimer (had issue).
      Susanna, who was sent to England as a hostage in 1228.
      Angharad ferch Llywelyn
      Margaret, who married (1) Sir John de Braose (called 'Tadody'), the grandson of William de Braose, 4th Lord of Bramber. She married (2) Sir Walter de Clifford and had children by both husbands.[1]
      In April 1226 Joan obtained a papal decree from Pope Honorius III, declaring her legitimate on the basis that her parents had not been married to others at the time of her birth, but without giving her a claim to the English throne.[2]

      Adultery with William de Braose[edit]
      At Easter 1230, William de Braose, who was Llywelyn's prisoner at the time, was discovered with Joan in Llywelyn's bedchamber. William de Braose was hanged on 2 May 1230, according to local folklore at Abergwyngregyn; the place was known as 'Gwern y Grog'. A letter from Nicholas, Abbot of Vaudy, suggests that the execution took place at Crogen near Bala (crogi = to hang).[3]

      Joan was placed under house arrest for twelve months after the incident. She was then, according to the Chronicle of Chester, forgiven by Llywelyn, and restored to favour. She may have given birth to a daughter early in 1231.

      Joan was never called Princess of Wales, but, in Welsh, "Lady of Wales".

      Death and burial
      She died at the royal home at Abergwyngregyn, on the north coast of Gwynedd, in 1237. Llywelyn's great grief at her death is recorded; he founded a Franciscan friary on the seashore at Llanfaes, opposite the royal home, in her honour. The friary was consecrated in 1240, shortly before Llywelyn died. It was destroyed in 1537 by Henry VIII of England during the Dissolution of the Monasteries. A stone coffin originally identified as Joan's can be seen in St Mary's and St Nicholas's parish church, Beaumaris, Anglesey. Above the empty coffin is a slate panel inscribed: "This plain sarcophagus, (once dignified as having contained the remains of Joan, daughter of King John, and consort of Llewelyn ap Iowerth, Prince of North Wales, who died in the year 1237), having been conveyed from the Friary of Llanfaes, and alas, used for many years as a horsewatering trough, was rescued from such an indignity and placed here for preservation as well as to excite serious meditation on the transitory nature of all sublunary distinctions. By Thomas James Warren Bulkeley, Viscount Bulkeley, Oct 1808"

      The slate panel at Beaumaris
      In recent years, doubt has been cast on the identity of the woman depicted on the coffin lid, which is not thought to belong to the coffin on which it now rests. Experts have suggested that the costume and style of carving belong to a much later decade than the 1230s when Joan died, although the coronet suggests a member of the royal family. Eleanor de Montfort is considered the most likely alternative.[4]

      Fiction
      Joan and her affair with William de Braose is the subject of Saunders Lewis's Welsh verse play Siwan. Edith Pargeter's novel The Green Branch is set in Wales and the Welsh Marches in 1228–31, when Llewelyn ruled Gwynedd and most of the rest of Wales.[5] Although named Joanna, Joan is the main character of Sharon Kay Penman's novel Here Be Dragons.[6]

      References
      1 Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, pg 387.
      2 Douglas Richardson, Kimball G. Everingham, Plantagenet ancestry: a study in colonial and medieval families. Genealogical Pub Co, 2004
      3 The Acts of Welsh Rulers: 1120–1283, ed. Huw Pryce. University of Wales Press, 2005. ISBN 9780708323830. p. 429. Accessed 6 October 2015
      4 Madeleine Gray (2014). "Four weddings, three funerals and a historic detective puzzle: a cautionary tale" (PDF). Transactions of the Anglesey Antiquarian Society and Field Club. Retrieved 11 June 2016.
      5 "Carla Nayland Book Review – The Green Branch by Edith Pargeter". carlanayland.org.
      6 Penman, Sharon Kay (1985). Here Be Dragons. New York: Holt, Rinehart, and Winston. ISBN 9780030627736.

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