Vorchtel, Berthold

Male Abt 1245 - DECEASED


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  • Name Vorchtel, Berthold 
    Birth Abt 1245  Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Death DECEASED  Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I30393  The Thoma Family
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2023 

    Father Vorchtel, Conrad,   b. Abt 1215, Bayern, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Bef 1286, Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location (Age < 70 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother Vorchtel, Benigna,   b. Abt 1220, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. DECEASED, Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Relationship natural 
    Marriage UNKNOWN  [1
    Family ID F11559  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Children 
     1. Vorchtel, Els,   b. Abt 1280, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. DECEASED, Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  [natural]
    Family ID F11558  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2023 

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  • Notes 
    • From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:

      Berthold Vorchtel - in Nuremberg
      ◆ Father: Conrad Vorchtel
      ◆ Born about 1245
      ◆ 1289 Schöffe

      Daughter:
      1. Els Vorchtel N718 , (* about? 1280)

      ∞ after 1305 with Ulrich Haller H103

      (* about? 1260), † 16.7.1324, (death sign)

      Mentioned in Nuremberg since 1293. 1297, 1314 councilman. In 1307 he buys the village Lauff. Financier and confidant of Emperor Ludwig of Bavaria and other princes. See Hall-21 / a

      he ∞1) (about? 1285) with Anna Tockler N706

      (* about? 1265)

      ext. 1305

      Regesten:
      • 1289 Bertholt Forchtl in a jury:

      • a letter from 1289: Kunigunda Turprechting , wife of Werner Gruntherr , bequeathed her estates to her brother's children (Berthold, Ulrich, Kunigund, Methild) that her husband had no power over it.
      Issued by Schultheiß Marquart (certainly Pfinzing!) , Together with Heinrich Groß the parents, Werner Nuzel , Eberhardt Kessbasser , Berthold Forchtl , Cunrad Eßler , Weigel von Newenmarkt , Heinrich Groß the younger, Heinrich Holzschuher , as witnesses,

      • Conrad Pfinzing , Berthold Turprecht , Werner Grundherr , Berthold Pfinzing Schultheiß and his father Conrad Pfinzing , Hermann vom Stein , Heinrich Staudigel , Leupold Staudigel .
      [Internet 2013, Nuremberg Yearbooks vol. 1-2 p.83]

      • Bertold Vorchtel, father of Els.
      [A.Scharr: Gen.Jb. 3 1963 p.17]

      → I suspect that Berthold is a son of Conrad Vorchtel. (HDL)

      • This or a younger one: Mintmaster Bertholt Vorchtel :

      • 28.5.1330: Marquart sturgeon and his landlady Mrs. Jutta give their estate to Schweinau, where Conrad Friedel and his landlady Kunigund are sitting, to the Bamberg provost. Marquart sturgeon had previously bought the estate from the mint master Bertholt Vorchtel .
      [CityA Nbg online]

      → This estate belongs to the 1341 Irmel Lemblinne .

      Regesten zu Els Vorchtel:
      • Her father: Heinrich Vorchtel in Nuremberg.
      [Genealogy from all German regions]

      → According to Scharr, her father is Berthold Vorchtel .

      • Elisabeth Vorchtel , parents: Bertold (? Heinrich) Vorchtel , † 1257 Nuremberg, ∞ Gertraud Roter .
      [B.Aign: AL Zinn, Gen.Jahrbuch Vol.45 / 46 2008]

      → If Bertold died in 1257, he could not possibly be the father of Els (HDL).

      Regesta to Anna Tockler:
      [A. Scharr: Gen.Jb. 3 1963 p.17]

  • Sources 
    1. [S1871] GERMANY: South German Families, Lemmel Archives.
      http://geneal.lemmel.at/StammtafelnSD.html