of Thurgau, Count Warin I

Male 725 - 774  (49 years)


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  • Name of Thurgau, Warin  [1, 2
    Title Count 
    Suffix
    Birth 725  Altdorf, Landshut, Bayern, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Gender Male 
    Appointments / Titles 754 
    Count in Thurgau 
    FSID GWHC-WTX  [1
    Death 20 May 774  Narbonne, Aude, Languedoc-Roussillon, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Burial Aft 20 May 774  France Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Person ID I32123  The Thoma Family
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2023 

    Father of Alemannia, Count Ruthard,   b. 690, Altdorf, Landshut, Bayern, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 9 Dec 771, Altdorf, Landshut, Bayern, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 81 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother von Elsass, Saint Odilia,   b. 686, Altdorf, Landshut, Bayern, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. UNKNOWN, Altdorf, Landshut, Bayern, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Relationship natural 
    Family ID F12367  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family von Spoleto, Adelinde Hadelinda,   b. 729, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 28 Aug 787, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 58 years) 
    Marriage Narbonne, Aude, Languedoc-Roussillon, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 3
    Children 
     1. of Altdorf, Isembart,   b. 735, Narbonne, Aude, Languedoc-Roussillon, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 805, Friuli-Venezia Giulia, Italy Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 70 years)  [natural]
    Family ID F12365  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2023 

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    Link to Google MapsBirth - 725 - Altdorf, Landshut, Bayern, Germany Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - 20 May 774 - Narbonne, Aude, Languedoc-Roussillon, France Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - - Narbonne, Aude, Languedoc-Roussillon, France Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • Warin (Thurgau)
      Count in Alemannia

      Warin († May 20, 774 [1] ) was a Frankish nobleman who left many traces in the history of Alemannia in the middle of the 8th century .

      Life
      After the defeat of the Alemannic duchy by the Carolingians and by the blood court of Cannstatt (746), along with Ruthard, he was one of those Franks who enforced Franconian rule in Alemannia as "administratores Alamanniae" [2] , who organized the Franconian county constitution and the fiscal estate . [3] He was primarily south of Lake Constance active while Ruthard rather north worked the lake.

      Warin has been recorded as a count in Thurgau since 754 [4] . In 759 it was he and Ruthard who persecuted the founder of the monastery, Otmar von St. Gallen , took prisoner, accused him and had him tried. [5] This action was triggered by tensions between the monastery and the Bishop of Constance, who wanted to make St. Gallen subordinate to his diocese. [4] Ruthard and Warin received goods from St. Gallen's property as gifts for their support, which Ruthard only partially incorporated into the treasury. [6] In his last years, probably similar to Ruthard's from Charlemagne's accession to the throneits influence declined without it being possible to speak of a fall. His son Isanbard was apparently able to take over the office of count from him, at least in Thurgau, and also tried to reach an understanding with the St. Gallen monastery, without, however, burdening his father.

      That was done by King Konrad I , who visited the St. Gallen monastery in December 911, just one month after his election, and promised an annual donation to Otmar's grave because he was the "son of those executioners" (meaning Ruthard and Warin) and thus obliged to atonement.

      family
      Warin was married to Hadellind , [1] both are the founders of the Buchau monastery around 770 . Hadellind is given as the daughter of Hildebrand, Duke of Spoleto , and the Regarde, who in turn is said to have been a sister of the Bavarian Duke Odilo , [7] even if the Buchau founding legend Hildebrand as the Swabian Duke and Regarde as the Bavarian Duchess and sister of Hildegard, the wife of Charlemagne, and Hadellind officiated as the first abbess until around 809. [8th]

      The sons of Warin and Hadellind are: [1]

      Isanbard, Count in Thurgau
      Swabo
      The chronicler Ekkehard IV apparently considers Warin (and Ruthard) to be Guelphs . Hans Jänichen, who sees two people in Ruthard, Ruthard the elder and Ruthard the younger, father and son, sees in Warin the son of one and the brother of the other without contradicting Ekkehard IV. Jänichen's view is controversial [9] . Josef Fleckenstein, in turn, suspects a member of the Widonen family in Warin .

  • Sources 
    1. [S789] WORLD: Family Search, Family Tree.
      https://www.familysearch.org/search/tree/name

    2. [S828] WORLD: The Peerage.
      https://thepeerage.com

    3. [S791] WORLD: Ancestry Family Trees.
      https://www.ancestry.com/search/categories/42/