de Bellême, Mabel Talvas

Female 1026 - 1079  (53 years)


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  • Name de Bellême, Mabel Talvas  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11
    Birth 1026  Bellême, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 11
    Gender Female 
    Appointments / Titles Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Countess Castile 
    House Bellême  [1, 4, 8
    FSID M897-QTS  [1, 4, 8
    Death 2 Dec 1079  Bures, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 11
    Cause: Beheaded by Hughes de la Roche-d'Inge and his brothers 
    Burial 5 Dec 1079  Troarn, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 11
    Person ID I33704  The Thoma Family
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2023 

    Father de Bellême, Seigneur of Bellême and Alençon WIlliam Talvas II,   b. 995, Bellême, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Between 1050 and 1054, Alençon, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 55 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother de Beaumont, Hildeburge,   b. 995, Alençon, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1067, Alençon, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 72 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Family ID F13147  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family de Montgomery, Count Roger II,   b. UNKNOWN   d. 27 Jul 1094, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. de Montgomery, Countess Maud,   b. 1039, St Germain de Montgomery, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 12 Sep 1082, Abbey of St Grestain, Grestain, Eure, Haute-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 43 years)  [natural]
     2. de Montgomery, Lord Roger III,   b. 1058, St Germain de Montgomery, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1123, Charroux, Allier, Auvergne, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 65 years)  [natural]
    Family ID F13146  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2023 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 1026 - Bellême, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsAppointments / Titles - Countess Castile - - Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - Cause: Beheaded by Hughes de la Roche-d'Inge and his brothers - 2 Dec 1079 - Bures, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBurial - 5 Dec 1079 - Troarn, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • Mabel was the daughter of William I Talvas and his first wife Hildeburg. She was the heiress of her father’s estates, her half-brother Oliver apparently being excluded. She also inherited the remainder of the Bellême honor in 1070 at the death of her uncle Yves, Bishop of Séez and Lord of Bellême. When their father was exiled by her brother Arnulf in 1048 she accompanied him until both were taken in by the Montgomery family. Between 1050-1054 she married Roger II de Montgomery, later 1st Earl of Shrewsbury. Roger II de Montgomery was already a favorite of Duke William and by being given in marriage to Mabel it increased his fortunes even further.

      Her husband Roger had not participated in the Norman conquest of England, but had remained behind in Normandy as co-regent along with William's wife, Matilda of Flanders. He had also contributed 60 ships to Duke William's invasion force. He joined the king in England in 1067 and was rewarded with the earldom of Shropshire and a number of estates to the point that he was one of the largest landholders in the Domesday Book.

      She and her husband Roger transferred the church of Saint-Martin of Séez to Evroul and petitioned her uncle, Yves, Bishop of Séez to build a monastery there on lands from her estates. The consecration was in 1061 at which time Mabel made additional gifts.

      Of all of Orderic’s female subjects Mabel was the most cunning and treacherous; if not entirely for her own misdeeds then as the mother of Robert de Bellême, who had a reputation for savagery as well as cruelty. In one passage Orderic describes her as "small, very talkative, ready enough to do evil, shrewd and jocular, extremely cruel and daring."

      In perpetuating her family’s feud with the Giroie family she set her sights on Arnold de Echauffour, the son of William fitz Giroie who her father had mutilated at his wedding celebration.[a] She obtained part of his estates when she and her husband Roger convinced Duke William to confiscate his lands. In 1063 however, Arnold was promised forgiveness by the Duke and was to have his lands restored. To prevent this Mabel plotted to kill Arnold. She attempted to murder Arnold of Echauffour by poisoning a glass of wine but he declined to drink. Her husband's brother, refreshing himself after a long ride, drank the wine and died shortly thereafter. In the end though she bribed Arnold's chamberlain providing him with the necessary poison, this time being successful.

      Excepting Theodoric, abbot of the abbey of Saint-Evroul, who she listened to at times, Mabel was hostile to most members of the clergy; but her husband loved the monks at Saint-Evroul so she found it necessary to be more subtle. In an incident in 1064, she deliberately burdened their limited resources by visiting the abbey for extended stays with a large retinue of her soldiers.[c] When rebuked by Theodoric the abbot for her callousness she snapped back that the next time she would visit with an even larger group. The abbot predicted that if she did not repent of her evilness she would suffer great pains and that very evening she did. She left the abbey in great haste as well as in great pain and did not abuse their hospitality again.

      Mabel continued her wickedness causing many nobles to lose their lands and become destitute. In 1077 she took the hereditary lands of Hugh Bunel by force. Two years later while coming out of her bath, she was killed by some men who had crept into the castle. Hugh had enlisted the help of his three brothers, gained entry to the castle of Bures on the Dives and struck off her head with his sword. The murderers were pursued but escaped by destroying a bridge behind them. Mabel's murder occurred on 2 December 1079 and she was buried three days later at Troarn.

      Her epitaph is notable as an example of monks bowing more to “the partiality of her friends than to her own merits":

      Sprung from the noble and the brave,
      Here Mabel finds a narrow grave.
      But, above all woman’s glory,
      Fills a page in famous story.
      Commanding, eloquent, and wise,
      And prompt to daring enterprise;
      Though slight her form, her soul was great,
      And, proudly swelling in her state,
      Rich dress, and pomp, and retinue,
      Lent it their grace and houours due.
      The border’s guard, the country’s shield,
      Both love and fear her might revealed,
      Till Hugh, revengeful, gained her bower,
      In dark December’s midnight hour.
      Then saw the Dive’s o’erflowing stream
      The ruthless murderer’s poignard gleam.
      Now friends, some moments kindly spare,
      For her soul’s rest to breathe a prayer!

      Mabel and her husband, Roger de Montgomery had ten children:
      1. Roger of Montgomery, oldest son, died young
      2. Robert de Bellême, Count of Alençcon in 1082, he succeeded his younger brother Hugh as 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury. He married Agnes, Countess of Ponthieu and died in 1131.
      3. Hugh of Montgomery, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury, died without issue 1098.
      4. Roger the Poitevin, Vicomte d'Hiemois, married Adelmode de la Marche.
      5. Philip of Montgomery.
      6. Arnulf of Montgomery,married Lafracota daughter of Muirchertach Ua Briain.
      7. Sibyl of Montgomory, she married Robert Fitzhamon, Lord of Creully.
      8. Emma, abbess of Almenêches.
      9. Matilda (Maud) of Montgomery, she married Robert, Count of Mortain and died c. 1085.
      10. Mabel of Montgomery, she married Hugh de Châteauneuf

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mabel_de_Bell%C3%AAme

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