de la Haye, Robert

Male 1075 - 1154  (79 years)


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  • Name de la Haye, Robert  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
    Birth 1075  La Haye-du-Puits, Manche, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
    Gender Male 
    Appointments / Titles Sénéchal de Normandie, Baron de l'Echiquier  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9
    FSID G398-YWS  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9
    Occupation Knight  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9
    Death 1154  Compton, Sussex, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
    Person ID I33750  The Thoma Family
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2023 

    Father de la Haye, Ranulf,   b. 1043, La Haye-du-Puits, Manche, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1123, Yerushalayim, Israel Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 80 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother d'Aubigny, Olive,   b. 1047, Saint-Martin-d'Aubigny, Manche, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1087, Somme, Picardie, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 40 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Marriage La Haye-du-Puits, Manche, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 3, 10
    Family ID F13175  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family de Lincoln, Muriel,   b. 1085, Brattleby, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1123, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 38 years) 
    Children 
     1. de la Haye, William I,   b. 1087, La Haye-du-Puits, Manche, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1170, Dunster, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 83 years)  [natural]
    Family ID F13174  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2023 

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  • Notes 
    • https://www.geni.com/people/Sir-Robert-de-la-Haye-Knight/6000000007125736265

      sir, Robert de la Haye , Knt, seneschal of Halnaker, Sussex, Justice, Baron of the Exchequer, Dafier in Doumertin Nomandy, Seigneur de La Haye 1098
      s/o Ranulf ( Ralph, Roul) de la Haye, Seigneur de la Haye, of Halnaker , Seneschal of Robert Mortain & Olivia de Rye
      b- 1085 - Halnaker, Sussex, England
      m- Muriel Lincoln
      d- abt 1135 -

      1098 - Heir of Uncle Eudes au Chapel, Seneschal of King Wm I - La Haye du Puits, Countances, Normandy
      Hereditary Constable of Lincoln castle & Sheriff of Lincoln

      1098 - he confirmed all the grants of his uncle Eudo Chapel

      Held - Halnaker, Sussex - he granted it to his daughter Cecily as marriage lands
      1117 - founder of Boxgrove Priory, Sussex ; he gave them lands in Sussex & Lincolnshire
      1100-1106 - ROBERT de Haia grants to Abbey of Tewkesbury ,
      he confirms a gift of Ceotol in Dorset & of the Churches of his demsense, the later was a gift of Robert de la Haia, of the mill of Raz & certain fisheries(along with those of Alfred Lincoln & Robert Malet witness 1100)

      1112-14 - Lincolnshire - Gilbert Calz - hel 5 bovates in Ounibi, in Blibuc, & Wadingham, & that Gilbert FitzGoseline held 7 Bovates in Billburgh & lands in Harpswella, Glentworda, Ungham, Cotes , Hackthorn, Ounreby - which ROBERT HAIA held of him

      1114 - Charter of King Henry I - to Geoffrey, Archbishop of Roeun, John Bishop pf Lisierex, Stephen Ct of Mortain & ROBERT Haia.. a fair is to be held at Nonacount..

      no date - sir ROBERT Haya - gave the church & manor of Long Sutton, Lincolnshire , with Chapel of Luton

      no date - Charter of ROBERT de Haia - to Rainal de Landa & all his other leiges of Lincolnshire - 1 of the monks of Burwell had sought him out in Normandy - he joins them to secure to the Monks , all their possesions as they held in time of Ansgot Borewelle..

      1105 - Charter of ROBERT de Haia s/o Ranulf, Senescal of Robert Ct of Mortain, nephew of Eudo the steward (Dapifer of King William I) - Notifying that in the year 1105 - He has given to Abbey of Holy Trinity & St Mary the virgin ,erected in St Opotuna (le Essay),with his wife's approval - to - Abbey of Holy Trinity - for his soul & those of the King & queen, his wife - the fee of Hannac, which the King gave him, these churches with their lands & tithes ; the church of St Mary of Boxgrave, parish of Chichester & 1/2 hides of land around it..

      1115 & 1126 - Robert Haia witnessed a Charter

      1123 - Charter of ROBERT de Haia, Notifying that by counsel of his wife Muriel & his sons Richard & Ralf - he grants to Abbey of Lessay, Calvados - That which Richard (called Tursin Haldulp) & Eudo his son, founder of the Abbey & gave it...Moreover, he ROBERT , grandson to Richard (called Tursin Haldup) & nephew of Eudo, confirms the gift of the above, & ROBERT Haia adding that by gift of himself , his wife Muriel & his sons Richard & Ralf - it possesses lands in .... Normandy & that in England- He had given the church of Bosgrave with all its appurtances & those of Brotebeia & Feligeham & his rights in church of Rison & the churches of Berlinges & Subroc & Sauvetona

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      According to Domesday Descendants, this family originated in La Haye-du-Puits in the Cotentin, Normandy {Manche}[1310]. The founding charter of Boxgrove Priory in Sussex states that the founder, Robert de La Haye, was "consanguineo" of Henry I King of England. The precise relationship has not yet been traced.

      1. --- (-after Oct 1066). Seigneur de La Haye. The Chronique de Normandie, based on le Roman de Rou, names "le sire de la Haye" among those who took part in the conquest of England in 1066[1311]. m ---. One child:

      a) RANULF . Seneschal of Robert de Mortain. m ---, daughter of THURSTAN Haldup & his wife ---. Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the foundation charter of the priory in which her son Robert de La Haye names himself "son of Ranulf the seneschal of Robert de Mortain" and "nephew of Eudo dapifer" [son of Thurstan Haldup][1312]. Ranulf & his wife had one child:

      i) ROBERT de La Haye ([1075/80]-[1150]). A manuscript recording the founding of Boxgrove Priory, Sussex states that it was founded by “Roberti di Haya…consanguineo eius” [referring to King Henry], to whom Henry I King of England had granted “honorem Halnaci” [Halmaker] in Sussex, and given to the abbey of Essay in Normandy[1313]. According to Domesday Descendants, this was land which had been forfeited by William de Ansleville[1314]. In the foundation charter of the priory he names himself "son of Ranulf the seneschal of Robert de Mortain" and "nephew of Eudo dapifer" [son of Thurstan Haldup][1315]. Domesday Descendants dates the foundation to "before 1105"[1316], which would place Robert´s birth in [1075/80], bearing in mind his date of death. Henry II King of England confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Lessai, including donations by "Turstini Haldup et Eudonis filii eius" confirmed by "Roberti de Haia et Murielis uxoris sue et Richardi et Radulfi filiorum eorum", by charter dated [1185/Jan 1188][1317].
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      Raoul de la Haye and Olive de Rie were the parents of Robert, baron de la Haye-du-Puits [Éric Van Torhoudt, L’écrit et la justice au Mont Saint-Michel: les notices narratives, vers 1060-1150, 2007], who married Muriel de Lincoln. Their son was Richard, baron de la Haye-du-Puits et de Varenquebec. The barony was to later pass to the descendant of the Crispin family of Neaufles, direct decendants of Herolfr Turstain. Richard Turstin: Baron de La Haye du Puits et le Plessis [Fresne] et Appeville: A clue to his origins is given in the latter holding: The family of Appeville were the family of Montfort-sur-Rille; 'La famille d'Appeville doit tirer son origine de l'une des trois paroisses de ce nom, situées en Normandie, 1° Appeville [depuis Annebaut], canton de Montfort-sur-Rille, arrondissement de Pont-Audemer(Eure); — 2° Appeville* [Seine-Inférieure], arrondissement de Dieppe, canton d'Offranville; — 3° Appeville-la-Haye [Manche], arrondissement de Coutances, canton de la Haye-du-Puits' ['Liber censualis', p. 191, 1842]. Ansrid I., as above, was the father of Hugh de Montfort-sur-Risle, brother of Anceline Bertrande; his son was Hugh II. de Montfort-sur-Risle, who married, as said, Alice de Beaufou. Richard Turstin was contemporary to him, and inherited Appeville-la-Haye: 'Seigneurs de la paroisse d'Appeville, canton de la Haye-du-Puits, dans la Manche, la charte de fondation de l'abbaye de Lessay, nous apprend que Turstin Hadulp, ainsi que son fils Eudes, donnèrent à ce monastère, tout ce qu'ils possédaient tant en églises qu'en terres, bois, prairies , etc. en Apavilla et en Osulfivilla' [ibid.]. The latter holding can be assumed to have been that of Osulf, father of Grimoult du Plessis, strongly suggesting a connection between Richard Turstin's wife, Emma, and the family of Plessis - see ch. xiv. b. * A tenant there was William d'Arques.

      SEIGNEURS de LA HAYE
      Source: Cawley Medieval Lands Database

      "According to Domesday Descendants, this family originated in La Haye-du-Puits in the Cotentin, Normandy {Manche}[1593]. The founding charter of Boxgrove Priory in Sussex states that the founder, Robert de La Haye, was "consanguineo" of Henry I King of England. The precise relationship has not yet been traced."

      First name unknown. (died after Oct 1066). Seigneur de La Haye. The Chronique de Normandie, based on le Roman de Rou, names "le sire de la Haye" among those who took part in the conquest of England in 1066[1594]. m ---. [Wife's name also unknown]
      One child:

      RANULF . Seneschal of Robert de Mortain. m ---, daughter of THURSTAN Haldup & his wife ---. Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the foundation charter of the priory in which her son Robert de La Haye names himself "son of Ranulf the seneschal of Robert de Mortain" and "nephew of Eudo dapifer" [son of Thurstan Haldup][1595].
      Ranulf & his wife had one child:

      ROBERT de La Haye ([1075/80]-[1150]). A manuscript recording the founding of Boxgrove Priory, Sussex states that it was founded by “Roberti di Haya…consanguineo eius” [referring to King Henry], to whom Henry I King of England had granted “honorem Halnaci” [Halmaker] in Sussex, and given to the abbey of Essay in Normandy[1596]. According to Domesday Descendants, this was land which had been forfeited by William de Ansleville[1597]. In the foundation charter of the priory he names himself "son of Ranulf the seneschal of Robert de Mortain" and "nephew of Eudo dapifer" [son of Thurstan Haldup][1598]. Domesday Descendants dates the foundation to "before 1105"[1599], which would place Robert´s birth in [1075/80], bearing in mind his date of death. Henry II King of England confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Lessai, including donations by "Turstini Haldup et Eudonis filii eius" confirmed by "Roberti de Haia et Murielis uxoris sue et Richardi et Radulfi filiorum eorum", by charter dated [1185/Jan 1188][1600].
      Curator Note: 'The parentage of Aubreye (Auberée, Aubrey), wife of Honfrois (Humphrey) de Vieilles is not known. There are conflicting theories about her parentage.

      Cawley Medieval Lands Database
      Sources differ as to Aubreye (Auberée, Aubrey)'s parentage. FMG (Cawley Medieval Lands Database) leaves her parents unknown. Others say that she is a de la Haye.
      Her birth date is unknown. Michael Stanhope's source gives her death date as December 28, 1045.
      She married Honfroi (Humphrey) de Vieilles. Their children were:
      'Rodbertus de Bellomonte, filius Unfredi.'
      Guillaume de Bellomonte, who gave to Saint-Léger de Préaux la forêt de Beaumont.
      Roger de Beaumont, (Roger de Vieilles "Barbatus" [de Beaumont]) alias Belomonte, Baron de Beaumesnil, who married Adeline, ADELINE de Meulan, daughter of GALERAN [III] Comte de Meulan & his first wife Ode, sister of Hugues II, Comte de Meulan
      Dunelme, a daughter, who married and had a daughter

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