de Vermandois, Hérbert II

Male 880 - 943  (63 years)


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  • Name de Vermandois, Hérbert  [1, 2
    Suffix II 
    Birth 880  Vermandois (Historical), Picardie, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Gender Male 
    House Carolingian 
    FSID LBBB-4XS  [1, 2
    Death 23 Feb 943  Saint-Quentin, Aisne, Picardie, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Person ID I33874  The Thoma Family
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2023 

    Father de Vermandois, Hérbert I,   b. 849   d. 6 Nov 907 (Age 58 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Family ID F13249  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family de France, Adela,   b. 898, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. DECEASED, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. of Vermandois, Albert I,   b. UNKNOWN   d. 9 Sep 988, Caen, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [natural]
     2. de Vermandois, Adèle,   b. 910, Vermandois (Historical), Picardie, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 10 Oct 958, Brugge, West-Vlaanderen, Belgium Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 48 years)  [natural]
    Family ID F13231  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2023 

  • Event Map
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    Link to Google MapsDeath - 23 Feb 943 - Saint-Quentin, Aisne, Picardie, France Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • Herbert II of Vermandois was the son of Herbert I of Vermandois, born circa 880. He succeeded his father as Count of Vermandois, Count of Meaux, and Count of Soissons, in 907. Herbert II was the first to exercise power over the territory that became the province of Champagne.

      Herbert married Adele (Adela), daughter of King Robert I of France, and together they had the following children:
      - Luitgarde (–978), m. William I, Duke of Normandy and Theobald I of Blois
      - Adela (910–960), m. Count Arnulf I of Flanders
      - Eudes (915–946)
      - Hugh (920–962), Archbishop of Reims
      - Adalbert I (c. 915–987), m. Gerberge of Lorraine
      - Robert (925 - 975), Count of Meaux and Châlons
      - Herbert III of Omois (Herbert the Old) (–980) m. Eadgifu of Wessex, widow of King Charles III King
      - Guy I (d. 986), Count of Soissons

      Herbert was of the House of Carolingian, a descendant of Charlemagne, as was his wife Adele, giving their children the Carolingian heritage on both sides.

      Herbert participated in the overthrow of King Charles III of France. In 923 he captured and imprisoned King Charles, who died still a captive in 929. Charles wife, Queen Eadgifu, and their young son Louis were forced to flee to the safety of her family in England. By 936 that son had returned to France and was crowned King Louis IV. Ironically Eadgifu, the widow of King Charles later married Herbert's son Herbert III of Omois.

      In 925 Herbert acquired the archbishopric of Rheims for his second son Hugh, with the help of King Rudolph. Six year old Hugh was confirmed in this position by Pope John X in 926 and sent to Auxerre to study.
      In 926 Herbert demanded the Countship of Laon for his oldest son Eudes, after Count Roger I of Laon had died. King Rudolph denied him and Herbert seized Laon in defiance, setting in motion a feud that resulted in the loss of all of his properties and titles, as well as those of his sons. With the assistance of King Henry the Fowler, Herbert submitted to King Rudolph in 934 and all his properties, except for Rheims and Laon, were restored to him.

      Herbert II died on 23 February 943 at Saint-Quentin, Aisne (the capital of the county of Vermandois). His estates and territories were divided among his sons:
      Adalbert I succeeded him as Count of Vermandois
      Guy I as Count of Soissons
      Robert as Count of Meaux
      Herbert the Old as Count of Omois

      Herbert of Omois died without children his titles going to his nephews, on Robert's death, Adalbert's son Herbert III inherited all. Herbert III's only son Stephen died childless in 1019–20 thus ending the male line of Herbert II.

      https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_II_de_Vermandois
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_II,_Count_of_Vermandois

      “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
      “HERIBERT II, Count of Meaux, Soissons, and Vermandois and lay-abbot of Saint-Crépin and Saint-Médard of Soissons, 900/907-943, born about 880. He married ___ OF FRANCE, daughter of Robert I, King of France, by his wife, Aelis. They had five sons, Eudes [Count of Vienne and Amiens], Heribert [Count of Omois and Troyes], Robert [Count of Troyes and Meaux], Albert (I) [Count of Vermandois], and Hugues [Archbishop of Reims], and two daughters, Adèle and Ligard (or Luitgard, Ledgarde) (wife of Guillaume I, Duke of Normandy, and Thibaut I, Count of Blois and Chartres). HERIBERT II, Count of Vermandois, etc., died 23 Feb. 943, and was buried at Saint-Quentin.
      Martin & Jacob Histoire de Soissons 1 (1837): 370-371. Étienne-Gallois La Champagne et les derniers Carlovingiens (1853): 139-145. Halphen & Poupardin Chroniques des Comtes d'Anjou et des Seigneurs d'Amboise (1913): 247-250 (Genealogiæ Comitum Andegavensium). Brandenburg Die Nachkommen Karls des Großen (1935) VI 3, VII 5. Schwennicke Europäische Stammtafeln 3(1) (1984): 49 (sub Vermandois). Winter Descs. of Charlemagne (800-1400) (1987): VI.3, VII.1-VII.7. Settipani & von Kerrebrouck La Préhistoire des Capetians (1993). Schwager Graf Heribert II (1994). Tanner Fams., Friends, & Allies (2004): 308 (Vermandois ped).
      Children of Heribert II de Vermandois, by ___ of France:
      i. ROBERT, Count of Troyes and Meaux [see next].
      ii. ADELE DE VERMANDOIS, married ARNULF (or ARNOUL) I the Great or the Old, Count/Marquis of

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