de Vienne, Constance

Female 920 - 963  (43 years)


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  • Name de Vienne, Constance  [1, 2, 3
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    Birth 920  Arles, Bouches-du-Rhône, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3
    Gender Female 
    Alternate Birth 935  Arles, Bouches-du-Rhône, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 3
    Alternate Birth 935  Arles, Bouches-du-Rhône, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    FSID LYB4-75S  [1, 3
    Death 963  Autun, Saône-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3
    Person ID I34507  The Thoma Family
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2023 

    Father de Vienne, Charles Constantine,   b. 900, Vienne, Isère, Rhône-Alpes, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 23 Jun 962, Vienne, Isère, Rhône-Alpes, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 62 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother de Troyes, Teutberga,   b. 903, Troyes, Aube, Champagne-Ardenne, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 14 Feb 961, Troyes, Aube, Champagne-Ardenne, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 58 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Family ID F13628  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family d'Arles, Boson II,   b. 920, Rhône, Rhône-Alpes, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Jul 965, Rhône, Rhône-Alpes, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 45 years) 
    Marriage 953  France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. de Provence, WIlliam I,   b. 955, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 29 Aug 993, Avignon, Vaucluse, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 38 years)  [natural]
    Family ID F13627  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2023 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 920 - Arles, Bouches-du-Rhône, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur, France Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsAlternate Birth - 935 - Arles, Bouches-du-Rhône, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur, France Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsAlternate Birth - 935 - Arles, Bouches-du-Rhône, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur, France Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - 963 - Autun, Saône-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Constantine_of_Vienne

      Charles-Constantine (died 962) was the Count of Vienne and son of Louis the Blind, the latter of whom was King of Provence and Holy Roman Emperor.

      Life[edit]
      When Charles' father Louis died in 929, Hugh of Arles, who was already king of Italy, took over Provence and gave it, in 933, to King Rudolf II of Burgundy.[1] Charles-Constantine for whatever reason, did not inherit the imperial throne or Provence.[2] This has led many to believe he was, in fact, illegitimate.[3] He was awarded the county of the Viennois in 931, by Rudolph of France.[4]
      He was married to Thiberge de Troyes.[4] They had two sons:
      • Richard[4]
      • Hubert[4]
      and possibly a daughter:
      • Constance of Vienne, married to Boson II count of Arles.
      Name and ancestry[edit]
      This count appears simply as "Carolus" (Charles) in his own charters.[5] Flodoard, writing his annals during the count's lifetime, called him Karolo Constantino Ludovici orbi filii (Charles Constantine, son of Louis the Blind), and this added byname also appears in the writings of 10th-century historian Richerus, who used Flodoard as a source.[5][6] The implications of this byname, Constantine, have been subject to debate. Poole considered it a toponymic name of Flodoard's devising, reference to Arles (sometimes called Constantina urbs),[5] but Previté-Orton sees in it a reference to his parentage.[7] A surviving letter by Patriarch Nicholas I Mystikos testifies that Emperor Leo VI the Wise of Byzantium, father of Constantine VII, had betrothed his daughter to a Frank prince, a cousin of Bertha (of Tuscany), to whom came later a great misfortune. That unfortunate prince could only be Louis III, whose mother Ermengard of Italy was a first cousin of Bertha, and who was blinded on 21 July 905, while the prospective bride would have been Emperor Leo's only surviving daughter at that time, Anna, born to his second wife Zoe Zaoutzaina.[7] Charles Constantine would thus have been given names reflecting his paternal and maternal imperial heritage.[8] However, it is still questioned whether the planned marriage ever took place,[9] and there are chronological difficulties (not insurmountable in the opinion of Previté-Orton) in making Anna the mother of Charles Constantine.[7]  Richerus suggested that the ancestry of Charles Constantine was tainted by illegitimacy back to five generations,[7] although the meaning of this is disputed.

  • Sources 
    1. [S789] WORLD: Family Search, Family Tree.
      https://www.familysearch.org/search/tree/name

    2. [S788] WORLD: Wikipedia.
      https://www.wikipedia.org/

    3. [S844] WORLD: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy.
      http://fmg.ac/