Notes:

From Lemmel:
Sifrid Pfincinch N601 - in Nuremberg
Parents unknown

(* about? 1190)

1233 with his wife Oesterhildis in a deed of the Abbot of Heilsbronn.

∞ about? 1215 with Österhild Bigenot N331

(* about? 1200)

her father: Konrad Bigenot N722 , (* about? 1175)
1226/1251 in the Nuremberg document book [Wunder S.63] 1219-1228 mayor in Nuremberg. See Ebnr-20 / Bi

Children:
1. Siboto, (* about? 1215) - in Nuremberg, see Pfin-21 / s

2. Merklin Pfinzing, (* about? 1217) - mayor in Nuremberg, see Pfin-21 / a

3. Hedwig Pfinzing, (* about? 1220) - ∞ Schurstab / Grundherr, see Pfin-21 / u

Regesten:
• 1233 Sifrid de Norinberc cognomine Pfincinch et uxor sua Oesterhildis, devoti fideles nostrique familiares ... He gives the monastery a predilection in Blindenhaslach (Kleinhaslach).
[in a deed of the Abbot of Heilsbronn, according to miracles]
[Nuremberg Yearbook Vol. 1-2 S.11]
[History of the monastery Heilsbronn, digitally on the Internet 2015]

• The family should come from Pfünz near Eichstätt.
[Mtlg Dr.W.Kraft, Miracle p.59]

→ Older ancestor lists indicate, according to Biedermann, a chamberlain Endres Pfinzing 1197 as progenitor. This Endres is taken from the fake tournament books by Georg Riexner. According to the Nuremberg Register of Records mentioned in 1233 Sifrid is the ancestor of Pfinzing.
[G.Wunder: Pfintzing the ancients. MVGN 49 (1959)]

• Seifried Pfinzing and his housewife Osterhildis in 1233.

• Hedwig Pfinzing ∞ with Mr. Werner Grundherr .
[Biedermann plaque 392 in a list of Pfinzing persons who can not be brought into a genealogical order]

→ In recent ancestor lists, this Seifried is considered the parent of Pfinzing .

→ In [AL Pusch, DFA 27 1964] and [Hagner: Die Bigenot ..., Fam.u.Gesch. Issue 2/2000] is stated as a wife: Oesterhild Bigenot , daughter of the mayor Konrad Bigenot.

Sifrid married Bigenot, Österhild about 1215 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Österhild (daughter of Bigenot, Konrad) was born in 1200 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died in DECEASED in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Name: Siboto Pfincinch

Notes:

From Lemmel:
Siboto Pfinzing N602 - in Nuremberg
Parents: Pfin-20 / a Sifrid Pfincinch N601 , Österhild Bigenot N331

(* about? 1215)

1251-1266 (Nuremberg Urk'buch) among the first citizens and in the citizens' representation ("universitas civium") mentioned.

∞1) before 1251 with Anna Ebner N206

(* about? 1230)

her parents: Seifrid Ebner N207 , (* about? 1185)
1234 in Nuremberg. See Ebnr-20 / a ; ∞ with Anna Vorchtel N208 , (* about? 1190)
See Vorc-21 / e .

∞2) (about 1258) with ... .... H865

(* about? 1235)

Children:
from 1st marriage:
1. Konrad, (* about? 1250) - in Nuremberg, mayor, knight, see Pfin-22 / r

2. Siboto, (* about? 1255) - in Nuremberg, see Pfin-22 / s

from 2nd marriage:
3rd Pignot / Bigenot Pfinzing Ne45 , (* about? 1260)
urk. 1282-1307

4. Ulrich Pfinzing Hb40 , (* about? 1262)
clergyman.

5. Berthold Pfinzing H722 , (* about? 1265), † probably 1297
urk. 1287 (1290-1298?)

Regesten:
• Siboto Pfincinch / Phinzing 1251-1266 in Nuremberg among the first citizens. He is the third in 1251, the second in 1253 and the first of the court in 1263 after the mayor. He is thus already part of the corporation, which in 1254 is called "universitas civium" (community of citizens) and from which the Council emerges. His brother Merklin Phinzing is called "honestus vir" (honorable man) or "vir discretus ac fidedignus" (knowledgeable and credible man).
[Wunder p.38ff, 56]

• Sibot Pfinzing , Urk. 1251-1266.
[A.Scharr: The ans. Citizen of Nuremberg, in: Gen.Jb. Vol.3 1963 p.14]
• mentioned in Nuremberg in 1253: Sibot Pfinzing and Berthold Turbreche . (No further details)

• 1254 also in a witness series.

• 1255 in a Nuremberg witness series, including: Heinrich von Mayenthal , Coler his brother, Sibot Pfinzing , Berthold Forchtelin , Conrad his son, Heinrich Togler , Hermann Graf .

• 1258: Berthold, the mayor of Nuremberg, carries a meadow near Neuhof to the fief of Heinrich von Stein , Butigler in Nuremberg, and gives the meadow. Among the witnesses: Heinrich von Stein , Seibot Pfinzing , Albrecht Ebner , Conrad Stromeier , Conrad Forchtlin , Hermann Graf .
[Nuremberg Annuals Vol. 1-2 p.28,31,34]

• 1263: Siboto Pfinzing and Merclin Pfinzing , citizens of Nuremberg.
[Nuremberg Yearbook Vol. 1-2 p.38]

• 1265: Siboto Phinzingus , Merclinus frater eius, first and second in a series of witnesses.
[Nürnberger document 411, Heilsbronner documents Nr.117. - Note from M.Keßler 2014]

• 1265 seals and signatures, among others: City Councilor Kon. Stromaier , Siboto Pfinzing .
[History Heilsbronn Bd.2, digital on the Internet 2015]

• 1251-1265 mentioned in Nuremberg, in the citizens' representation and in the court hot court. ∞ before 1251 in Nuremberg with Anna Ebner , daughter of Seifried Ebner, 1234 in Nuremberg, ∞ with Anna Vorchtlin .
[AL Pusch, DFA 27 1964]

→ After this marriage Ebner Siboto must have had a second wife, since the sons Pignot and Conrad Pfinzing are mentioned as step-brothers, see [Scharr].

• The data for Siboto at Biedermann. The father given by Biedermann (Berthold I) and son (Siboto, lives 1378) are incorrect. Conrad, Pigenot, Ulrich and Berthold II Pfinzing are not Siboto's brothers but his sons.

[Biedermann panel 393]

Regesta to Anna Ebner:
• Not on the board Ebner bei Biedermann.

Regesten to Pignot / Bigenot Pfinzing:
• Pignot Phinzing 1282-1307, a brother of Konrad.
[Miracle p.37]

• Pignot (Bigenot) Pfinzing , Urk. 1282 and 1288, erw. until 1307

• Son of Sibot and stepbrother of Conrad
[A.Scharr: The spelled. Citizen of Nuremberg, in: Gen.Jb. Vol.3 1963 p.14]

• Pigenot Pfinzing , 1288 witness in a document.
[Biedermann panel 393]

• 13.5.1307: Conrad Pfinzing and his brother Bigenot sell ...
[StadtA Nbg online]

Regesta to Ulrich Pfinzing:
• A brother of Pigenot and Berthold: Ulrich Pfinzing in the spiritual state. Without a year.
[Biedermann panel 393]

• Not mentioned in miracles.

Regesten to Berthold Pfinzing:
• Berchtold Phinzinch (not the mayor!) 1287, 1288.
[NUB 745, 768, miracle p.37] No further information.

• Berthold Pfinzing 1287 (1290-1298?), Son of Sibot and stepbrother of Conrad.
[A. Scharr: The ans. Citizen of Nuremberg, in: Gen.Jb. Vol.3 1963 p.14]

→ Biedermann [Plate 394] gives the year of death 1297 for Berthold II.

→ Biedermann [plates 393,394] states as his children: Bertold Reichs-Schultheiß, Hedwig Abbess, Elisabeth ∞ Geuschmid . These are correct children of Merklin Pfinzing , Pfin-21 / a.

Siboto married Ebner, Anna before 1251 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Anna (daughter of Ebner, Seifrid and Vorchtel, Anna) was born in 1225 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died in 1258 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:

Merklin Pfinzing - mayor in Nuremberg
◆ Parents: Sifrid Pfincinch and Österhild Bigenot

(* about? 1217), † 1278 in Nuremberg

1263-1274 mentioned (Nürnb.Urk'buch). 1274 mayor. In 1274 he arranged for mutual duty exemption between Nuremberg and Mainz.

∞ (about 1240) with Els Isolt N683

(* about? 1220)

her parents: Bertold Isolt N684 , (* about? 1195), † before 1266
1258/65 mayor. His successor in 1276 is (his son-in-law) Merklin Pfinzing . [Miracles p.58] See Pfin-20 / Is ; ∞ with leukardis .... Nm99 , (* about? 1200).

Children:
1. (Elisabeth) Pfinzing N666 , (* about? 1240)

∞ with Ropold / Rapoto Gewsmyd N665

(* about? 1230)

1270-1288 in Nuremberg. See Gsm-21 / r

2. Adelheid Pfinzing No92 , (* about? 1242)

∞ with Conrad von Neumarkt N092

(* about? 1235), † 9.7.1296 in Nbg St.Kath

1260 Brothers Conradus and Wigelinus de Novo Foro. 1276 mayor Nuremberg. 1295 founder. See Weig-22 / e1

his father: Ulrich von Neumarkt N091 , (* about? 1205)
1259 Ulricus de Novo Foro. Probably father of the brothers Chunrad and Wigelin. See Weig-21 / i

3. Berthold Pfinczing, (* about? 1245) - mayor in Nuremberg, see Pfin-22 / a

4. Hedwig Pfinzing Nm42 , (* 1247), † 1294
Abbess St. Clara.

5. Marquard, (* about? 1250) - mayor in Nuremberg, see Pfin-22 / m

Regesten:
• The imperial city of Nuremberg had hardly gained security under King Rudolf against the Duke of Bavaria and the burgrave when we found Merklin Pfinzing as the royal mayor and chairman of the court (1276). He died soon thereafter, but his sons Bertold and Markward held the office of the Schultheißenamt after each other in 1281-90, followed by Bertold's son-in-law Konrad Esler in 1290-1316 .
[Miracle p.57]

• 1263: Siboto Pfinzing and Merclin Pfinzing , citizens of Nuremberg.

• 1269: Marquard Pfinzing and Conrad Forchtlin , Provisors of the Maria Magdalena Monastery in Nuremberg.
[Nuremberg Yearbooks Vol. 1-2 p.38,44]

• 1265: Siboto Phinzingus , Merclinus frater eius, first and second in a series of witnesses.
[Nürnberger document 411, Heilsbronner documents Nr.117. - Note from M.Keßler 2014]

• Marquard Pfinzing , Urk. 1265-1273, 1274 mayor, † 1278.

• Brother of Sibot.

• ∞ (?) With daughter of the mayor Berthold Isolt gen. Provost .
[A.Scharr: The ans. Citizen of Nuremberg, in: Gen.Jb. Vol.3 1963 p.14]

• Merklin Phinzing (brother of Siboto) 1264-1274; In 1264 he arranged a mutual duty exemption with Mainz; 1274 mayor.

• G.Wunder suspects that the mayor Bertold Isolt was his father-in-law, which brought both the Schultheißenamt and the first name Bertold into the Pfinzing family.

• His sons: Berthold and Marquard, both part-time mayors.

• A daughter Agnes (sister of the mayor Berthold Pfinzing and alleged wife of Konrad Groß) is dropped.
[Miracles p.36,58]

• 1269 Witnesses: ... milites, then Marquardus Pfinzing , Konrad Strohmayer , Albertus Ebener , Friedrich Ungelter , Hermann Stainer , citizens of Nurenberch.
[History Heilsbronn Bd.2, digital on the Internet 2015]

• 1274 Reichs-Schultheiß in Nuremberg, † around 1278. ∞ with ... Isolt gen.Probst .
[B.Aign: AL Zinn, Gen.Jahrbuch Vol.45 / 46 2008]

• ∞ around 1260 with Els Isolt [AL Pusch, DFA 27 1964]

→ This marriage date can not be correct. (HDL)

→ In some genealogies another daughter born around 1250 is mentioned, who married the jury member Heinrich Eisvogel . After the kingfisher life data, this Pfinzing daughter must have been born later, probably around 1275. I suspect therefore that she is not the daughter of the elder but daughter of the younger Marquard Pfinzing. (HDL)

• Biedermann gives Merklin an incorrect father (Berthold I) and no children.

[Biedermann panel 393]

Regesta to Els Isolt:
• Your first name Els loud [AL Pusch, DFA 27 1964]

Regesten zu (Elisabeth) Pfinzing:
• Elisabeth Pfinzing , husband of Mr. Rappold Geuschmid, anno 1270.
[Biedermann plaque 394] Here mistakenly stated Berthold II as father.

Regesten zu Adelheid Pfinzing:
• Adelheid born. Pfinzing , wife of the mayor Conrad v.Neumarkt .
[Walter Fries, MVGN Vol.25 (1924) p.9]

Regesten to Hedwig Pfinzing:
• Hedwig Pfinzing , a sister of the mayor Berthold Pfinzing , was elected the second Abbess of the Nuremberg St. Clara Monastery in 1280, † 1294.
[Biedermann Tafel 394] Here mistakenly indicated as the daughter of Berthold II.

Merklin married Isholt, Els about 1240 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Els (daughter of Isolt, Bertold and Leukardis, N.N.) was born about 1220 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died in DECEASED in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• FSID: LTYR-T92

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:
Siboto Pfinzing - in Nuremberg
Father: Siboto Pfincinch

(* about? 1255)

1278, 1282, 1288 mentioned. 1317, 1319 Named.

∞1) (about? 1282) with ... Esler N604

(* about? 1260), † 1310

Sister of the mayor Conrad Esler .

her father: Konrad Esler N600 , (* 1215)
documented in 1253 in Bamberg. 1276 with his son Konrad citizen to Bamberg. See Eslr-21 / a

∞2) (about? 1311) with ... .... N605

(* about? 1280)

unknown second wife of Siboto

Children:
from 1st marriage:
1. Konrad, (* about? 1283) - In Nuremberg, mayor, see Pfin-23 / s

2. Hans, (* about? 1285) - in Nuremberg, at Heumarkt, see Pfin-23 / t

3. Michael, (* about? 1288) - in Nuremberg, see Pfin-23 / u

4. Margarete Pfinzing Nk29 , (* about? 1290)

∞ 1310 with Friedrich Behaim N399

* 1285, † 1365

Losunger in Nuremberg. See Beh-23 / a

his parents: Albrecht Behaim N731 , * 6.2.1250, † 6.10.1342 in Nuremberg, 92 years old
merchant in Nuremberg, the spices from Venice moved. Since 1288 in the council, mayor of several times. See Beh-22 / a ; ∞ 1.10.1280 with Ursula Kingfisher N732 , (* about? 1262), † 25.5.1328 in Nuremberg St. Cath ..

5. Agnes Pfinzing N606 , (* about? 1300/1305), † 26.2.1357

∞ (about? 1325) with Konrad Waldstromeyr N607

(* about? 1305), † 5.11.1360

1343-1360 mentioned. See Wstr-24 / a

his parents: Konrad Waldstromer N609 , (* about? 1275), † 28.12.1357
He is first called Stromer . After being loaned to the Nuremberg Forestry Office, he is alternately called Stromer and Waldstromer . "Konrad III". See Wstr-23 / a ; ∞ with Catharina Groß N771 , (* about? 1282), † after 1343
(sister of the mayor Conrad Groß) .

from 2nd marriage:
6. Kunigunde Pfinzing Nn62 , (* about? 1310)

∞ with Jacob Weigel N644

(* about? 1305), † before 1379

1340-1376. See Weig-24 / v

his parents: Stefan Weigel N807 , (* about? 1275), † before 1321
1308, 1311 mentioned. Imperial administrator of the Hofmark Berngau. Reichsgut Eschenau. See Weig-23 / w ; ∞ with Offnay v.Heimburg N808 , (* about? 1285), † after 1352
1321-1352 as a widow ..

7. Berchtold, (* about? 1315) - at the Milchmarkt in Nuremberg, see Pfin-23 / w

Regesten:
• Sibot Pfinzing , 1278 and 1288 (until 1319)

• Son of Sibot

• ∞1) with the sister of the mayor Conrad Esler

• ∞2) with....
[A.Scharr: The ans. Citizen of Nuremberg, in: Gen.Jb. Vol.3 1963 p.14]

• 1278 witnesses: Conrad Schultheiß of Nuremberg, Sifrid Ebner , Cunrad and Sibot Pfinzing , Heinrich Holzschuher .
[Nuremberg Yearbooks Vol. 1-2, 1834, p.55]

• Siboto Phinzing , brother of Konrad, 1278-1288 in the Nuremberg Charterbook .

• Ulman Stromer : A sister of the "good judge" Konrad Esler was married to "Sebot Pfinzing , who was Hansen's father and Michel Pfinzing's father".

• Probably identical to: Siboto Pfinzing , 1317 and 1319 among the named of the Nuremberg Council.

• To Sibotos sons. A sibling (after 1396): Cunrat Pfinczig at the stok, Sulteiss, Hans Pfinczig his brother at the hewmarkt, Michel Pfinczig his brother at the preachers.,

• 16.2.1343: The mayor Konrad Groß calls Cunrad, Hans and Michel Pfinzing (ie Sibotos sons) his Oheime.

• Sebot Pfinzing and the Eslerin have the four siblings as grandchildren: 1) Cunrat, Hans Hainrich, Jakob Waltstromer and brother of the Apt zu Helsbrunn and her sister Franz Forstmeisterin ; 2) Cunrat Pfintzig and his brother Perholt; 3) Markart and Fritz Pfintzig and their brother (Heinrich) zu Babenberg; 4) Sebolt Pfintzig , who has the Vorchtels daughter. These are the around 1385/1387 living relatives of Ulman Stromer .
[Miracle, MVGN 49, pp. 37-39]

→ This Siboto is missing from Biedermann. There in Plate 393 there is a Siboto, which is recorded from 1253, and as its alleged son a Siboto, who died in 1379. The younger one is not a son but the great-grandson of the older one. (HDL)

Regesten zu ... Esler:
[Miracle, MVGN 49 p.38]
Her death 1310 [AL Pusch, DFA 27 1964]

Regesten too ... ....:
• unknown second wife of Siboto [Wunder S.41]

Regesten to Agnes Pfinzing:
→ The parents of this Agnes Pfinzing are wrongly stated at Biedermann:

• Conrad Waldstromer , 1356 founder of the Pilgrim's Hospital, † 5.11.1360, ∞ Agnes Pfinzing , † 26.2.1357, Tv Berthold Pfinzing , knight and imperial council, ∞ Agnes Irrer .
[Biedermann panel 546 Waldstromer]

→ In the Pfinzing table 496 Biedermann indicates that the Agnes Pfinzing daughter of Berthold died in 1357, which is hardly possible in time (HDL).

• Agnes Waldstromer born. Pfinzing is the dam of a children's series, which, according to Ulman Stromer, must be the grandson of Sebot Pfinzing from his first marriage with the esler .
[Miracle: Pfinzing p.39]

→ The Eslerin dies in 1310. She must have been around 35/40 when she got the daughter Agnes around 1300/1305, who then married Konrad Waldstromer . Their children may then have been born approximately in the period 1325/1340. (HDL)

→ Ulman Stromer reports that the children of Agnesoo Waldstromer are grandsons of the Eslerin . Wunder [S.41] says that Agnes must come from the second marriage of Siboto, so that their children, contrary to Ulman Stromer's opinion, can be stepchildren and not grandchildren of the Eslerin . I would like to follow this, because it is quite possible in time, that Agnes is a late daughter of the donkey (HDL).

Regesten to Kunigunde Pfinzing:
• Jakob Weigel s wife Kunigunde is the daughter of Siboto Pfinzing from his first marriage to the sister of the mayor Conrad Esler . Her daughter Clara Weigel ∞ with Georg Ammann .
[Scharr: Waldstromer 52.MVGN 1962/63 p.30]

→ She may have been born about 1305 (HDL).

→ See also Kunigunde Pfinzing (Tv Pfin-24 / e Bertold) ∞ Seifrid Weigel , Weig-25 / g .

Siboto married Pfinzing, N.N. about 1311 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. N.N. was born about 1280 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died in DECEASED in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Siboto married Esler, Klara about 1282 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Klara (daughter of Esler, Konrad) was born about 1260 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died in 1310 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Gewsmyd, Rapoto. Rapoto was born about 1230 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died after 1288 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Weigel, Konrad. Konrad was born in 1240 in Neumarkt, Neumarkt in der Oberpfalz, Bayern, Germany; died in 1296 in Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Life Event: Between 1356 and 1361, Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; At the Milk Market

Notes:

From Lemmel:
Berchtold Pfinzing N641 - in Nuremberg at the milk market
Parents: Pfin-22 / s Siboto Pfinzing N603 , ... .... N605

(* about? 1315), † 11.11.1361 in Nuremberg

Councilman and mayor in Nuremberg At the Milchmarkt in Nuremberg, first documented mention in 1356-1361.

∞1) 1348 in Nuremberg with Anna Irrer N441

(* about? 1325), † 1351 in Nuremberg

∞2) 1352 in Nuremberg with Anna Tucher N643

* around 1330, † 11.11.1410 in Nuremberg

1361 Widow of Berchtold Pfinzing.

her parents: Bertold Tucher N645 , * 1310 in Nuremberg, † 17.4.1379 in Nuremberg
1340-1379 Member of the Small Council. In 1340 he was the first of the family to join the Inner Council, as a junior mayor. See Tuc-25 / a ( Er ∞2) 1365 with Anna Pfinzing N646 , (* about? 1345), † 12.12.1381 in Nuremberg ) ; ∞ 1330 with Elisabeth v.Maiental N758 , (* about? 1310), † 1364 in Nuremberg
Daughter of the imperial land judge of the Burggrafentum Nuremberg. [Schwemmer p.19] 2 daughters ..

Children:
from 1st marriage:
1. Anna Pfinzing N654 , (* about? 1349)

∞ (about? 1370) with Konrad Groß N045

(* about? 1315), † after 1397

1363-1365 Reichsschultheiß. 1370/80 Hammerherr. Makes 1397 testament. See Gros-24 / e

his parents: Konrad Groß N632 , * around 1280, † 10.5.1356 in Bamberg, 76 years old, buried in Nuremberg
1338-1356 mayor. Hospital founder. See Gros-23 / e ; ∞ (about? 1310) with Agnes Zollner N772 , (* about? 1295), † 13.8.1342
from Bamberg.

he ∞1) (about? 1345) with Anna Haller H244

(* about? 1325), † before 1368

2. Elisabeth Pfinzing N655 , (* about? 1351)

∞ (about? 1382) with Ulrich Stromer N899

(* about? 1340), † 1418

"zur güldenen Rose", councilor in Nuremberg 1380 Senator in Sulzbach (same?) See Stro-24 / b

his parents: Ulrich Stromer / Stromeyr N818 , (* about? 1295), † before 5.1.1380
1340-1380 councilman in Nuremberg. 1358 in Vienna. Ulrich the Elder, filius Wolframi, the golden rose. 1341, 1359 chief of the Stromer Society. See Stro-23 / b ; ∞ with Margarete Prantner N898 , (* about? 1310).

he ∞1) (about? 1368) with Margaretha Reichswirth Na13

(*? 1345)

from 2nd marriage:
3. Berthold, (* about? 1352) - alderman in Nuremberg, see Pfin-24 / w

4. Franz, (* about? 1350) - bailiff and judge in Nuremberg, see Pfin-26 / e

5. Konrad Pfinzing N761 , (* about? 1352), † 1402

∞ with Juliana Grundherr Nh43

(* about? 1353), † 1405

her parents: Michael landlord Na14 , (* about? 1325), † 1388 in Nuremberg
supreme captain Nuremberg See Gru-24 / a ( Er ∞2) with Catharina Schopper Ni50 , (* about? 1348) ) ; ∞ with Juliane Lauffenholz Na15 , (* about? 1330).

6. Mechtild Pfinzing H861 , (* about? 1353)

∞ (about? 1370) in Nuremberg with Paul Mendel N382

(* about? 1335), † 1387 in Nuremberg

in Nuremberg, 1362-1376 and 1382-1387 councilman. See Mend-24 / a

his father: Friedrich Mendel N439 , (* about? 1305), † 29.9.1351 in Nuremberg
∞ with (Katharina?) Langmann . See Mend-23 / a

7. Küngund Pfinzing N651 , (* about? 1355)
It was not called Elisabeth, as stated by Biedermann. [Miracle MVGN 49 p.40]

∞ with Peter Stromer N652

(* about? 1355), † 1402

In Nuremberg. See Stro-25 / ab

his parents: Peter Stromer N653 , * 1292, † 4.12.1388
inventor of the softwood seed. In 1375, Lewpolt Schurstab and Fritz Lemlein testify for him. See Stro-24 / a ( Er ∞1) with Siglint Ebner N776 , (* about? 1310), † 1350 ) ; ∞ (1351) with Margarete Forstmeister N777 , (* about? 1330), † after 1401.

Regesten:
> Summary :

• "Berthold VIII" according to Biedermann, ∞ with Anna Tucher , so confirmed by Wunder. His father is not "Berthold V" (according to Biedermann) but Siboto (according to Wunder). According to Wunder, Anna Tucher is his second wife. The first wife, who is not named at Biedermann, is according to AL Pusch Anna Irrer .

> In detail :

• In Nuremberg on Milchmarkt, first documented mention 1356-1361.

• Berthold Pfinzing († 1361), Tucher's Eidam, has sold his paternal inheritance, namely the courtyard in front of the Frauentor, to his sisters "von beeden gangs" (ie right sister and half-sister), Kunigunde Jakob Weiglin and Agnes Konrad Waldstromerin .

• Before his death in 1361, he named as guardian of his children and as executors of his business (his will):
Mr. Berthold Tucher his Schweher (= father in law, who survived him);
Conrad Waldstromer the boy, his sister (Agnes) son;
Gerhaußen Stromerin his Muhmen (who is that? It lives at this time Franz Stromer ∞2) with Gerhaus Pömer, she † 1362);
Künigundt Weiglin his sister.

• His widow (who died 11.11.1410).
[Wonders p.40]

• A document from 1405 shows that Anna, widow of Bertold Pfinzing , divided her estates into (the sons) Franz and Cuntz Pfinzing and (the grandsons) Steffan Stromer and siblings.

[see at the bottom of the page Pfin.html]

• According to miracle it is in the above certificate Bertold Pfinzing at the milk market ∞ Anna Tucher . The father of Steffan Stromer is Peter Stromer, Ulman's nephew. Peter's wife was called Küngund and not Elisabeth, as stated by Biedermann.

• Bertold Pfinzing at Milchmarkt, his daughters from his first marriage: Anna (∞ Konrad Groß) ; Elisabeth (∞ Ulrich Stromer to g.Rose). - Anna can not have been married to the founder Konrad Groß nor to his son of the same name, because she is younger. At best, she is a late second wife of the younger Konrad.
[Wonders p.41 footnote 49]

→ Anna may really be the second wife of the younger Konrad, whose first wife Anna Haller died before 1368. (HDL)

• Wonder does not specify who Bertold's first wife is. According to AL Pusch, it is Anna Irrer .

• Berthold Pfinzing , councilor and mayor in Nuremberg, † 11.11.1361, ∞1) 1348 in Nuremberg with Anna Irrer , † 1351 in Nuremberg; ∞2) 1352 in Nuremberg with Anna Tucher , † 11.11.1410 in Nuremberg. A daughter from a second marriage: Mechtild ∞ with Paul Mendel.
[AL Pusch, DFA 27 1964]

→ Confusion at Biedermann:

• Berthold VIII Pfinzing , 1345 Senator Nuremberg, † 1361, ∞ Anna Tucher , Tv Berthold Tucher ∞ v.Mayenthal . Children: Elisabeth ∞ Peter Stromer ; Berthold X ∞ Ortlieb .
[Biedermann panel 398]

• A madman (Agnes, not Anna) is stated as the first wife of Berthold V at Biedermann:

• Berthold V Pfinzing , † 1357, ∞1) Agnes Irrer ; ∞2) Cath. v.Lauffenholz, she † 1379.

• Children (not specified from which marriage): Kunegunda ∞ Weigel ; Agnes ∞ forest streamers ; Anna ∞ Tucher ; Albrecht, † young; Seiz ∞ Schürstab , childless; Ulrich † 1399; Berthold VII ∞ Groß / Stromer ; Anna Klosterfrau; Clara nunnery; Berthold VIII ∞ Tucher .
[Biedermann panel 396]

→ Should he really have had two sons named Berthold? (HDL)

→ Comparison with miracles (see above): Year of death is not right, second marriage is wrong, daughters Kunigunde and Agnes right.

• son of Berthold V: Berthold VIII Pfinzing , 1345 Senator Nuremberg, † 1361, ∞ Anna Tucher , children: Elisabeth ∞ Peter Stromer ; Berthold X ∞ Ortlieb. (There is no question of her first marriage to Anna Irrer .)
[Biedermann Tafel 398]

→ The daughter, married to Peter Stromer , is not Elisabeth but Kungund. [Wonder]

Regesta to Anna Irrer:
• Berthold Irrer , 1294 Nuremberg
[A.Scharr: Die anges. Citizen of Nuremberg, in: Gen.Jb. Vol.3 1963 p.17]

→ Probably grandfather of Anna (HDL)

Regesto to Anna Tucher:
• Berthold Pfinzing married in a second marriage in 1352 Anna Tucher , whose father Bertold Tucher married in a second marriage Anna Pfinzing .

• Widow of Berthold Pfinzing (he † 1361), she † 11.11.1410 "at 80 years old".

• 1405: Berthold's Wittib communicates with her mother Anna Pfinzingin with her petits Steffan Stromern and his two siblings and with her brothers Franz Pfinzig the Elder, Elbetbeten Prant's grand daughter his wife, Cunzen Pfinzigen , his wife; Teiligung testifies in 1405 by Seitz and Sebald the Pfinzing and Jakob Grolandt .
[Wonders p.40]

• Berthold Tucher ∞1) Elisabeth v.Mayental , daughter Anna * 1330, † 11.11.1410 as 81-year-old widow, ∞ Berthold Pfinzing , he † 1361.
[Biedermann panel 493]

Regesta to Anna Pfinzing:
• Anna Pfinzing , 2nd wife of Bertold Tucher .

• Your brothers Franz d.Ä. and Conz Pfinzing .

• 1361 Stepmother of the widow Anna Pfinzing born. Tucher .

• 4 sons and 4 daughters.
[Wunder S.40,49] - [Scharr: Waldstromer p.27]

→ If Franz and Conz are their brothers, then their father is Bertold Pfinzing on the wine market.

• Wrong parents at Biedermann:

• Berthold Tucher , † 1379, ∞2) 1365 with Anna Pfinzing , † 1381, Tv Knights Berthold Pfinzing , Bamberger, Palatine and Nuremberg-burggräflicher Council and senator to Nuremberg, ∞ Agnes.

• After Biedermann Anna got 8 children in the Tucher marriage. She must have been so young at the marriage in 1365, so * about 1340/1347. (HDL)

• Anna Pfinzing became the happy tribe mother of all subsequent Tucher .
[Biedermann panel 396]

Regesta to Elisabeth v.Maiental:
• Daughter of the imperial judge of the Burggrafentums Nbg.
[Schwemmer p.19]

→ right sister instead of daughter? see Biedermann

• Sister of Mr. Hilpolt von Mayenthal , Ritter and kaiserl. Land judge of the Burggrafentum Nuremberg.
[Biedermann panel 493]

Regesta to Anna Pfinzing:
• Daughters of Berthold Pfinzing's first marriage on the dairy market: Anna (∞ Konrad Groß) and Elisabeth (∞ Ulrich Stromer zgRose). This Anna can not have been married to the founder Konrad Groß nor his son of the same name, because she is younger. Unless she was a late wife of the younger Konrad.
[Miracle: Pfinzing, p. 41 footnote 49]

→ She may indeed be the second wife of the younger Konrad! (HDL)

Regesta to Anna Haller:
from the first marriage of the father [Bullemer]

Regesten zu Konrad Pfinzing:
• Around 1364: The brothers Konrad and Berthold Pfinzing sell a farm in Altendettelsau to the monastery Heilsbronn.
[M.Keßler, Rittersitz Dettelsau, Diss.2009 S.69ff. - Internet 2014]

• Conrad Pfinzing (Sv Berthold ∞ Great) † 1402. ∞ Juliana Tv Michael Grundherr , Senator and chief captain of Nuremberg, ∞ Juliana v.Laufenholz .

• 4 daughters who lived in 1414: Gerhauß, Elisabeth, Christina, Elß.
[Biedermann panel 397]

Regesten to Juliane Lauffenholz:
• Juliane v.Lauffenholz (Tv Ulrich vL) ∞ Michael Grundherr , daughter Juliane ∞ Conrad Pfinzing .
[Biedermann panel 63 landlord, 397 Pfinzing]

Berchtold married Tucher, Anna in 1352 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Anna (daughter of Tucher, Bertold and von Maiental, Elisabeth) was born about 1330 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died on 11 Nov 1410 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:
Siboto Pfinzing - in Nuremberg
Father: Siboto Pfincinch

(* about? 1255)

1278, 1282, 1288 mentioned. 1317, 1319 Named.

∞1) (about? 1282) with ... Esler N604

(* about? 1260), † 1310

Sister of the mayor Conrad Esler .

her father: Konrad Esler N600 , (* 1215)
documented in 1253 in Bamberg. 1276 with his son Konrad citizen to Bamberg. See Eslr-21 / a

∞2) (about? 1311) with ... .... N605

(* about? 1280)

unknown second wife of Siboto

Children:
from 1st marriage:
1. Konrad, (* about? 1283) - In Nuremberg, mayor, see Pfin-23 / s

2. Hans, (* about? 1285) - in Nuremberg, at Heumarkt, see Pfin-23 / t

3. Michael, (* about? 1288) - in Nuremberg, see Pfin-23 / u

4. Margarete Pfinzing Nk29 , (* about? 1290)

∞ 1310 with Friedrich Behaim N399

* 1285, † 1365

Losunger in Nuremberg. See Beh-23 / a

his parents: Albrecht Behaim N731 , * 6.2.1250, † 6.10.1342 in Nuremberg, 92 years old
merchant in Nuremberg, the spices from Venice moved. Since 1288 in the council, mayor of several times. See Beh-22 / a ; ∞ 1.10.1280 with Ursula Kingfisher N732 , (* about? 1262), † 25.5.1328 in Nuremberg St. Cath ..

5. Agnes Pfinzing N606 , (* about? 1300/1305), † 26.2.1357

∞ (about? 1325) with Konrad Waldstromeyr N607

(* about? 1305), † 5.11.1360

1343-1360 mentioned. See Wstr-24 / a

his parents: Konrad Waldstromer N609 , (* about? 1275), † 28.12.1357
He is first called Stromer . After being loaned to the Nuremberg Forestry Office, he is alternately called Stromer and Waldstromer . "Konrad III". See Wstr-23 / a ; ∞ with Catharina Groß N771 , (* about? 1282), † after 1343
(sister of the mayor Conrad Groß) .

from 2nd marriage:
6. Kunigunde Pfinzing Nn62 , (* about? 1310)

∞ with Jacob Weigel N644

(* about? 1305), † before 1379

1340-1376. See Weig-24 / v

his parents: Stefan Weigel N807 , (* about? 1275), † before 1321
1308, 1311 mentioned. Imperial administrator of the Hofmark Berngau. Reichsgut Eschenau. See Weig-23 / w ; ∞ with Offnay v.Heimburg N808 , (* about? 1285), † after 1352
1321-1352 as a widow ..

7. Berchtold, (* about? 1315) - at the Milchmarkt in Nuremberg, see Pfin-23 / w

Regesten:
• Sibot Pfinzing , 1278 and 1288 (until 1319)

• Son of Sibot

• ∞1) with the sister of the mayor Conrad Esler

• ∞2) with....
[A.Scharr: The ans. Citizen of Nuremberg, in: Gen.Jb. Vol.3 1963 p.14]

• 1278 witnesses: Conrad Schultheiß of Nuremberg, Sifrid Ebner , Cunrad and Sibot Pfinzing , Heinrich Holzschuher .
[Nuremberg Yearbooks Vol. 1-2, 1834, p.55]

• Siboto Phinzing , brother of Konrad, 1278-1288 in the Nuremberg Charterbook .

• Ulman Stromer : A sister of the "good judge" Konrad Esler was married to "Sebot Pfinzing , who was Hansen's father and Michel Pfinzing's father".

• Probably identical to: Siboto Pfinzing , 1317 and 1319 among the named of the Nuremberg Council.

• To Sibotos sons. A sibling (after 1396): Cunrat Pfinczig at the stok, Sulteiss, Hans Pfinczig his brother at the hewmarkt, Michel Pfinczig his brother at the preachers.,

• 16.2.1343: The mayor Konrad Groß calls Cunrad, Hans and Michel Pfinzing (ie Sibotos sons) his Oheime.

• Sebot Pfinzing and the Eslerin have the four siblings as grandchildren: 1) Cunrat, Hans Hainrich, Jakob Waltstromer and brother of the Apt zu Helsbrunn and her sister Franz Forstmeisterin ; 2) Cunrat Pfintzig and his brother Perholt; 3) Markart and Fritz Pfintzig and their brother (Heinrich) zu Babenberg; 4) Sebolt Pfintzig , who has the Vorchtels daughter. These are the around 1385/1387 living relatives of Ulman Stromer .
[Miracle, MVGN 49, pp. 37-39]

→ This Siboto is missing from Biedermann. There in Plate 393 there is a Siboto, which is recorded from 1253, and as its alleged son a Siboto, who died in 1379. The younger one is not a son but the great-grandson of the older one. (HDL)

Regesten zu ... Esler:
[Miracle, MVGN 49 p.38]
Her death 1310 [AL Pusch, DFA 27 1964]

Regesten too ... ....:
• unknown second wife of Siboto [Wunder S.41]

Regesten to Agnes Pfinzing:
→ The parents of this Agnes Pfinzing are wrongly stated at Biedermann:

• Conrad Waldstromer , 1356 founder of the Pilgrim's Hospital, † 5.11.1360, ∞ Agnes Pfinzing , † 26.2.1357, Tv Berthold Pfinzing , knight and imperial council, ∞ Agnes Irrer .
[Biedermann panel 546 Waldstromer]

→ In the Pfinzing table 496 Biedermann indicates that the Agnes Pfinzing daughter of Berthold died in 1357, which is hardly possible in time (HDL).

• Agnes Waldstromer born. Pfinzing is the dam of a children's series, which, according to Ulman Stromer, must be the grandson of Sebot Pfinzing from his first marriage with the esler .
[Miracle: Pfinzing p.39]

→ The Eslerin dies in 1310. She must have been around 35/40 when she got the daughter Agnes around 1300/1305, who then married Konrad Waldstromer . Their children may then have been born approximately in the period 1325/1340. (HDL)

→ Ulman Stromer reports that the children of Agnesoo Waldstromer are grandsons of the Eslerin . Wunder [S.41] says that Agnes must come from the second marriage of Siboto, so that their children, contrary to Ulman Stromer's opinion, can be stepchildren and not grandchildren of the Eslerin . I would like to follow this, because it is quite possible in time, that Agnes is a late daughter of the donkey (HDL).

Regesten to Kunigunde Pfinzing:
• Jakob Weigel s wife Kunigunde is the daughter of Siboto Pfinzing from his first marriage to the sister of the mayor Conrad Esler . Her daughter Clara Weigel ∞ with Georg Ammann .
[Scharr: Waldstromer 52.MVGN 1962/63 p.30]

→ She may have been born about 1305 (HDL).

→ See also Kunigunde Pfinzing (Tv Pfin-24 / e Bertold) ∞ Seifrid Weigel , Weig-25 / g .

Margarete married Behaim, Friedrich on 19 Jan 1310 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Friedrich (son of Behaim, Albrecht and Eisvogel, Ursula) was born on 25 Jan 1285 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died on 14 Jun 1365 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; was buried after 14 Jun 1365 in St Catherine Church, Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:

Michael Pfinzing - in Nuremberg
◆ Parents: Siboto Pfinzing and N.N. Esler
◆ Born about 1288, † 1345
◆ In Nuremberg, 1319-1337.
◆ ∞ with Agnes Behaim
⁃ * 1290

her parents: Albrecht Behaim N731 , * 6.2.1250, † 6.10.1342 in Nuremberg, 92 years old
Kaufmann in Nuremberg, the spices from Venice moved. Since 1288 in the council, mayor of several times. See Beh-22 / a ; ∞ 1.10.1280 with Ursula Kingfisher N732 , (* about? 1262), † 25.5.1328 in Nuremberg St. Cath ..

Children:
1. Seibolt, (* about? 1315) -, see Pfin-24 / u

2. Michael, (* about? 1318) - in Nuremberg, see Pfin-24 / v

3rd Cunz Pfinzing Nm22 , (* about? 1320)

4. (daughter) Pfinzing H552 , (* about? 1325)

∞ with Franz Haller H551

(* about? 1335), † 1391

his parents: Franz Haller H106 , (* about? 1310), † 1371 in Nuremberg St.Sebald
1345 in the Council. See Hall-22 / u ; ∞2) with Anna Stiebar H190 , (* about? 1315)
Tv Conrad Stiebar , Hochfürst. Bamb. Hofmeister ..

Regesten:
• Michel Pfinzing , son of Siboto, 1319, 1324, 1335, 1337 in the Nuremberg charter book. In Nuremberg with the preachers.

• Sons: Sebold, "who has the Vorchtels daughter"; as well as "Cuncz Michel Pfinzing" .

• Ulman Stromer: Cunrat Pfinczig at the stok sulteiss, Hans Pfinczig his brother at the hewmarkt, Michel Pfinczig his brother (at the preaching).

• 1343: The mayor Konrad Groß calls Cunrad, Hans and Michel Pfinzig his unmarried .
[Miracles p.39ff]

• 19.10.1325: Fritz Geusmid (nephew of Heinrich? - HDL), who is now "full age", gives his third of the "Eigengut am Weinmarkt an der Brunnen" to Seifried Holzschuher . Mayor Conrad Pfinzing ; Witnesses: Heinrich Geusmid , Seifried Ebner , Weigel - son of Conrad Weigel , Michael Pfinzing .
[CityA Nbg. on-line]

• ∞ Agnes Behaim .

• Senator Nuremberg, † 1345, buried in the choir of St. Catherine's Monastery. Children: Michael, died unmarried; (Daughter) ∞ Franz Haller , † 1391. (No son Sebold!)
[Biedermann Tafel 394]

→ Error note: In [Biedermann plate 394] this Michael is erroneously stated as the son of Berthold Pf.

Regesta to Agnes Behaim:
[Biedermann T.2]

Regesta to Ursula Eisvogel:
• Ursula Eißvogelin ∞ Albrecht Behaim . Her daughter Agnes ∞ Michael Pfinzing .
[Biedermann panel 394 Pfinzing]

[Date of death according to AL Frotscher]

Regesten zu Cunz Pfinzing:
• Ulman Stromer: "Cunz Michel Pfinczing" .
[Miracle p.42]

Regesta to Franz Haller:
• Frantz Haller , Sv Frantz, Senator, † 1391, without children.

• ∞ with a daughter of Senator Michael Pfinzing ∞ Agnes Behaim .
[Biedermann panel 103 B Haller]

Michael married Behaim, Agnes in UNKNOWN in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Agnes (daughter of Behaim, Albrecht and Eisvogel, Ursula) was born in 1290 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died in 1344 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Imperial Mayor

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:

Heinrich Geusmid
◆ Parents: Ropold / Rapoto Gewsmyd and (Elisabeth) Pfinzing
◆ (* about? 1265)
◆ 1298-1336 documented, ∞ Margret ... 1306 mayor.
◆ ∞ with Margarete Groß
⁃ (* about? 1274). her parents: Heinz Groß , (* about? 1250), † zw 1314/1317 In Nuremberg, documentary 1276-1306. Death between 1314-1317. He ∞2) (about? 1287) with Gisela Esler, (* about? 1260), † after 1339. Sister of the mayor Conrad Esler . ) ; ∞ (about? 1273) with Sofie v. Vestenberg, (* about? 1250), † about? 1286.

Daughter:
◆ Margarete Geusmid, (* about? 1295), † 24.11.1350
◆ ∞ (about? 1324) with Heinrich Stromer. He was (* about? 1270), † 30.4.1347 in Nuremberg 1313: Mr. Hainrich, Mr. Conrat Stromeir's son. 1323 at the salt market. His parents: Conrad Stromer , (* about? 1230), † before 20.7.1319 1283-1313 erw. 1291 Schöffe in Nuremberg. In 1313 he buys a meadow near Hersbruck. ( Er ∞2) (about? 1300) with Kunigunde / Anna v.Laufenholz, (* about? 1280) ) ; ∞ (about? 1255) with (Sofie?), (* about? 1235) Her first name is not Kunigunde. 11 children .. he ∞1) (about? 1291) with (Kunigunde) Gnatznapf (* about? 1272) 8 children Stromer.

Regesten:
• Heinrich Geuschmid , the "sultheis hi waz" (Ulman Stromer). 1302-1312 documented, 1306 mayor (perhaps as a representative of Konrad Esler) . His daughter Margaret † 1350 was the mother of Ulman Stromer .
Heinrich was one of the 16 children of Ropolt / Rapoto Geusmid , who appears 1270/1288 and was married to a Pfinzing.
[Miracle p.43]

• Around 1310 Otto Muffel and Heinrich Geusmit master builder of the St.Lorenz parish in Nuremberg.
[Hirschmann "Muffle" p.283]
• Heinrich Geuschmid , 1306 mayor in Nuremberg. 1336 witnessed when Conrad Waldstromer bought the forest hut to Reichelsdorf including the mill.
[Cube news p.345]
• 19.10.1325: Fritz Geusmid (nephew of Heinrich? - HDL), who is now "full age", gives his third of the "Eigengut am Weinmarkt an der Brunnen" to Seifried Holzschuher . Mayor Conrad Pfinzing ; Witnesses: Heinrich Geusmid , Seifried Ebner , Weigel - son of Conrad Weigel , Michael Pfinzing .

• 30.4.1341: Heinrich Geuschmidt sells two properties to Philipp Groß at the back Fischbach and receives them back to inheritance law.
[CityA Nbg. on-line]

• 28.2.1326: Heinrich Geusmid and his wife Margarete have sold their free farm to Tautenwinde to the infirmary of the DO zu Nbg. Schultheiß: Conrat Pfintzing . Witnesses: Marquard Ortlieb , Heinrich Pfinzing ; Ulrich Kuedorffer, Hermann vom Stein .
[Internet 2015, StAN Ritterorden Urk.3503]

• 1333: Heinrich Geusmit sells his farm in pechofen (Bechthofen near Windsbach) to the Nuremberg Pechersk monastery (caretaker: Hermann Ebner ). Confirmed by the mayor Conrad Pfinzing and the Nuremberg Schöffen.
[M.Keßler, Rittersitz Dettelsau, Diss.2009. - Internet 2014]

• Bullemer suspects that his wife Margarete was a daughter of Heinz Groß .
[Bullemer, Groß, Tafel on page p.140]

Regesta to Margarete Gross:
• Bullemer suspects that Margret, the wife of Heinrich Geusmid , is the daughter of Heinz Groß .
[Bullemer, Great]

• Age-appropriate, she can only come from the first marriage of Heinz Gross (HDL).

Regesta to Gisela Esler:
[Miracle MVGN 49 p.38] - [Scharr: Waldstromer, MVGN 52 p. 23]

Regesta to Sofie v. Vestenberg:
• For her was stated: † before 1298. Because of the second marriage of her husband Heinz Gross, she would have died shortly after 1285. (HDL)

• 10.8.1340: Jahrestagstiftung of Konrad Groß for his parents Heinrich and Suffey.
[Miracle p.39 footnote 36]

Regesta to Margarete Geusmid:
[Scharr: Forest Streamers p.38]

Regesten zu (Kunigunde) Gnatznapf:
• (Kunigunde), Tv Conrad Glatznapf ∞ Adelheid.
[Scharr: Forest Streamers p.38]

Heinrich married Groß, Margaret in UNKNOWN in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Margaret (daughter of Groß, Heinz and von Vestenberg, Sofie) was born about 1274 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died in DECEASED in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:

Konrad Weigel- in Nuremberg
◆ Father: N.N. Weigel
◆ (* about? 1275), † before 1341
◆ 1305 mentioned as a customer of Seifried Holzschuher.
⁃ ∞ (about? 1300/1305) with Gerhaus Holzschuher who was (* about? 1275/1280)
⁃ Her parents: Friedrich Holzschuher, (* about? 1250), † 20.3.1339 buried in the Katharinenkapelle of the monastery Ebrach. Mentioned from 1270. 1303.1314 Schöffe in Nuremberg. His daughter is probably Irmel, who lives from 1335 as a widowed Lemlein in Nuremberg. He was ∞2 (about? 1290/1300) with Jutta Graf, (*? 1260?) 1308 and 1318 mentioned as wife of Friedrich Holzschuher. Sister of Conrad Graf (documented 1287-1308); her father probably the alderman Hermann Comes (documentary 1255, 1258). ) ; ∞ (about? 1275) with Jutta Stromer, (* about? 1255/1260).

Children:
Jeut, (* about? 1300) - ∞ Katerpekk, see Weig-24 / f

2. Fritz Weigel N122 , (* about? 1303), † before 1341
∞ with Gerhaus..., she lives as a widow in 1341.

3. Cunrad Weigel N123 , (* about? 1303), † before 1341
∞ with Elspet..., she lives as a widow in 1341.

Regesten:
• Around 1305 Cunradus Weigelein in the Hozschuher book of actions for larger amounts of cloth and furs.

• 1305 Mr. Chunrad Weigel as a witness in a Nuremberg court document on the income of the monastery Ebrach from the courtyard Conrad Muffel s in Katzwang.

• 1307 "Chunrat Weigel , burger of Nuremberg".

• 12.11.1340: Gertraut, Mr. Cunrat Weigel s blessed widow at the dairy market ...

• 11.12.1341: Gerhaus, hern Cunrad Weigels blessed wittwe, citizen of Nuremberg, makes a donation to the women altar to St.Sebald, with consent "Cunrat Katerpekken , my Ayden, vern Jeuten, his landlady, my daughter, Cunrat Gnatznapfes , the also spoke for Katrein, his landlady, my eniclein, Vern Gerhausen, Fritzen Weygel blessed, my suns widows, and Vern Elspeten, Cunrat Weigels, my suns blessed widows. " So children: Jeut ∞ Katerpekk, with granddaughter Katrein ∞ Gnatznapf; Fritz († before 1341) ∞ Gerhaus; Cunrad († before 1341) ∞ Elspet.
[Hirschmann, MVGN 41 p.272] Gerhaus is a wood shoemaker .

→ Hirschmann points out that two different Konrad-Weigel-widows are mentioned here and therefore it remains unclear which Konrad belongs to which documents. Here I arrange, somewhat arbitrarily, the Holzschuher verandah into the same family. (HDL)

• 29.3.1315: Cunradt Wiglein , Nuremberg citizen, gives to the maintenance of a daughter.
[CityA Nbg, online]

• Mr. Conrad Weigel ∞ 1318 with Gutta Holtzschuherin , Tv Friedrich H. ∞ Gutta Stromer .
[Biedermann Tafel 167 Holzschuher]

→ Hirschmann calls her Gerhaus instead of Gutta. - If the year 1318 of the marriage at Biedermann is correct, she may be the second wife of Konrad Weigel and not the mother of his children. (HDL)

Regesten zu Gerhaus Holzschuher:
→ In AL Rusam this Gerhaus Holzschuher is regarded as the sister of Heinrich and Seifried Holzschuher (* approx. 1275/80). Then Seifried Holzschuher in El. Weigel married his niece. - In principle, that would work, but it can hardly be old in age. In terms of age, she would have to be a daughter of Heinrich Holzschuher ∞ v.Gründlach. (HDL)

Regesto to Fritz Weigel:
• 1338.1339 Fritz Weigel as a witness.
[Hirschmann p.273]

Regesta to Cunrad Weigel:
• 1332 "Weiglinus filius Cunradi" called consul in the Council Directory. - That must be Conrad and not his brother Fritz.
[Hirschmann p.273]

Konrad married von Heimburg, N.N. before 1300 in Bayern, Germany. N.N. (daughter of von Heimburg, Uffnay and von Heimburg, Gertraud) was born in UNKNOWN in Bayern, Germany; died in DECEASED in Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Konrad married Holzschuher, Gerhauß in 1318 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Gerhauß (daughter of Holzschuher, Friedrich and Stromer, Jutta von Reichenbach) was born between 1276 and 1280 in Bayern, Germany; died in DECEASED in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel"

5 Elisabeth Weigel, (* 1280), † 2.10.1365, buried in Ebrach
⁃ ∞ (about? 1300/1305) with Seifried Holzschuher
⁃ (* about? 1275/1280) in Nuremberg, † 25.3.1354 in Nuremberg
⁃ In Nuremberg, he lives at the Long Bridge. Documented from 1315. 1342-1353 in the council.
⁃ His parents: Friedrich Holzschuher H012 , (* about? 1250), † 20.3.1339 buried in the Katharinenkapelle of the monastery Ebrach
⁃ Mentioned from 1277. 1303.1314 Schöffe in Nuremberg. His daughter is probably Irmel, who lives from 1335 as a widowed Lemlein in Nuremberg. He ∞2 (about? 1290/1300) with Jutta Graf, (*? 1260? 1308 and 1318 mentioned as wife of Friedrich Holzschuher. Sister of Conrad Graf (documented 1287-1308); her father probably the alderman Hermann Comes (documentary 1255, 1258). ) ; ∞ (about? 1275) with Jutta Stromer, (* about? 1255/1260)

Buried:
Katharinekapelle of the Monastery